Educate me: Cleveland “BigCat” Williams

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  1. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano was 230 plus pounds in his late teens and early 20s but does that means that he's a 220 natural?
     
  2. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    I have never seen anyone agree with nor like you...
     
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  3. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Billy Conn was 6ft2 with 73 inch reach and was bigger man than LaMotta.

    Duran was walking 200 pounds but is he a 200 pounder?
     
  4. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only Liston fans don't agree with me...because this forum should be called, only Liston was a boxer ever other than that are all bums, accorsing to you his fans.
     
  5. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    he's going crazy guys...
     
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  6. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, he looked really unfit in his amateur days. I'm surprised Weight Watchers didn't hire him to be their spokesman.

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  7. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What does that have to do w/ his weight?
     
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  8. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have you ever watched movie about LaMotta or his autobiography?
    He used to walk so heavy and couldn't get back in shape very often...but he wasn't a bigger man than Hagler or Mugabi in size, he was just out of shape.
     
  9. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because that man is twice bigger than LaMotta, he is a natural LHW but was fighting HWs like LaMotta was MW that wanted to fight LHWs.
     
  10. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would you watch a movie when you have the actual footage right in front of your eyes?
     
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  11. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    No, Lyle died suddenly at the age of 70 for reasons which were nothing to do with his stab wound forty-six years previously. His death was a shock to everyone around him because he'd been in excellent health for his age, even returning to the ring when he was in his fifties.
     
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  12. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Check better then, so you wouldn't say nonsense like McVey.
     
  13. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Check what LaMotta said about his weight then.
     
  14. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This actually should be pretty easy to confirm - if his death was indeed the result of his earlier stab wounds, then it would be formally classified by the coroner & police as a homicide, & the case would be referred to the DA to determine whether the perpetrator (if his identity were known & he were still alive) could face upgraded charges.

    I'm aware of what he has said. & I still don't know why you would choose to trust anything other than your own eyes.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He owns his own search engine now. But in order to use it, you have to go to his home in the Himalayan mountains.
     
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