Educate me: Cleveland “BigCat” Williams

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  1. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    I try my hardest to be nice...
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Give it a few more years lol
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    It arrived at the looney bin many years ago.
     
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  4. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's hard to tell ... Angles of pictures are really not valid after all...
     
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  5. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    By today standards dummy, LaMotta is not a real LHW he is not bigger even than Canelo.
     
  6. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was LaMotta a true LHW if he fought a WW in MW division?
     
  7. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Professional
    In professional boxing, the division is above 168 pounds (76 kg) and up to 175 pounds (79 kg), falling between super middleweight and cruiserweight.

    The light heavyweight class has produced some of boxing's greatest champions: Bernard Hopkins (who, upon becoming champion, broke the record for oldest man to win a world title), Tommy Loughran, Billy Conn, Joey Maxim, Archie Moore, Michael Moorer, Bob Foster, Ann Wolfe, Michael Spinks, Dariusz Michalczewski, Roy Jones Jr., Sergey Kovalev and Zsolt Erdei.

    Only dumb man is you, show me a LHW that was same size as LaMotta but you can not fool.
     
  8. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Professional
    In professional boxing, the division is above 168 pounds (76 kg) and up to 175 pounds (79 kg), falling between super middleweight and cruiserweight.

    The light heavyweight class has produced some of boxing's greatest champions: Bernard Hopkins (who, upon becoming champion, broke the record for oldest man to win a world title), Tommy Loughran, Billy Conn, Joey Maxim, Archie Moore, Michael Moorer, Bob Foster, Ann Wolfe, Michael Spinks, Dariusz Michalczewski, Roy Jones Jr., Sergey Kovalev and Zsolt Erdei.

    Is anyone of them LaMotta size or similar?
    I dont think so...
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ironically, you just proved his point but you’re to stupid to realize it.
     
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  10. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amateur?
    Marciano was fat in amateurs and so was Joe Frazier.

    Professional
    In professional boxing, the division is above 168 pounds (76 kg) and up to 175 pounds (79 kg), falling between super middleweight and cruiserweight.

    The light heavyweight class has produced some of boxing's greatest champions: Bernard Hopkins (who, upon becoming champion, broke the record for oldest man to win a world title), Tommy Loughran, Billy Conn, Joey Maxim, Archie Moore, Michael Moorer, Bob Foster, Ann Wolfe, Michael Spinks, Dariusz Michalczewski, Roy Jones Jr., Sergey Kovalev and Zsolt Erdei.

    Is anyone of them close to size with LaMotta?
     
  11. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LaMotta never fought more than 168 he was 167 or below in most of his fights fool.
     
  12. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    He's real talented at talking himself in circles.
     
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  13. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LaMotta fought at LHW only few of his last fights with nobodies when he was not able to cut anymore, before that he always fought as a MW and was never called a LHW let a lone good one because everyone here is trying to make Satterfield look good because he knocked their hero Williams, second most overrated boxer on his forum after their even more improtant hero, Sonny Liston.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    Very true. 167 wasn't light heavyweight 70 years ago either apparently.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    LaMotta's first six pro fights saw him weigh in at 167 1/2, 170, 172, 168 3/4, 171 and 170.

    Even if you want to persevere with your mentally deficient clinging to the modern 168 SM division he was a light heavyweight in 5 of his first 6 pro fights! To kill off your wriggle room only one opponent weighed less than 170 3/4. Make it 7 of his first 8 as the next two bouts were over 168 as well. 3 of his first 8 opponents didn't even make LHW, they were cruiserweight.

    It was his 25th fight by the time LaMotta came in 160 or under.

    You've made a big enough fool of yourself for one week, have a few weeks off.
     
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