Educate me: Cleveland “BigCat” Williams

We all surely know by now where the next response is going to angle................

 

But LaMotta wasn't. You have footage right in front of you showing plain as day that he wasn't fat then.

Yes - Conn, Delaney, Marshall.

 

Will that angle's pictures be valid, though?

 

Never but keep an eye out for his own expert personal opinion on what Jake should have been weighing at what times.

 

Again he was fat and had problem with cutting but he was never called LHW and never fought for LHW title like Harry Greb is not a LHW even tho he beat one of the greatest LHWs.

 

As predicted!

 

Established officially at 12 st (168.0 lb; 76.2 kg) in 1909 by NSC and 175 lb (79.4 kg) in 1920 by Walker Law

 

Why don't you post that honestly and in it's entirety instead of *******izing and misinterpreting it

Dumbo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_class_(boxing)

In the early nineteenth century, there were no standard weight classes. In 1823, the Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue said the limit for a "light weight" was 12 stone (168 lb, 76.2 kg) while Sportsman's Slang the same year gave 11 stone (154 lb, 69.9 kg) as the limit.[8]

Size mismatches were dangerous for the smaller boxer and unsatisfying for the spectators. National and world titles could only become recognised if standard weight classes were agreed upon.[9] Important sets of weight classes were those specified in 1909 by the National Sporting Club of London, and those contained in the 1920 Walker Law which established the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC).[10]

After the split in the 1960s between the World Boxing Association (WBA) and the World Boxing Council (WBC), the divisions were narrowed, creating more champions simultaneously, and making it easier for fighters to move between different weight divisions. Among the professional bodies, the names of the new divisions are not standardized between different sanctioning bodies, although the cutoff weights are. These weights are specified in pounds, reflecting the historic dominance of Britain (and, later, the United States) in the sport

 

Laughable I quoted most recent weight class change.
You said that few decades ago 167 was no middleweight which is not true.

 

BF has got to be the kid that The Who were talking about in Pinball Wizard.

 

The irony. The grammar, the stupid.

 

Wonder who is stupid now becuase what you guys are doing are just spreading nonsense with no any valid argument while I bring some good ones especially about Ron Lyle death, wounds and about Jake LaMotta.

 

You bring nothing except unintentional hilarity. You are dumbo the forum clown. The only reason you get any interaction at all is because people sometimes get bored and at other times they feel like a light workout...sorta like a little bit of shadowboxing. It's hardly like you could be considered an "opponent".