Educate me on the importance of getting the centre of the ring

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  1. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hi guys.

    I know guys like joe calzaghe and george foreman are big on getting the centre of the ring. joe calzaghe has mentioned a few times after fights with kessler and hopkins that his main aim was to get control the centre of the ring and maintain it. it must be a big thing if thats your main aim in a big fight one would think. calzaghe isnt a one punch knockout puncher whereas foreman is however both control the centre of the ring all the time. foreman once said that a fighter does not need to back up...either go forward or circle, naturally by doing this i guess you would be in control of the ring?

    its rare to see either of them go backwards, they circle.

    1) I want to know why its so important to get the centre of the ring.

    2) how do you achieve this and maintain it.

    3) give me some example of fighters who do this well except the above mentioned.

    I know tyson used to say he will never take a backwards step but i think this had more to do with ego than intention of keeping the centre.

    my understanding is that getting the centre of the ring means your in control of where your opponent goes, this would mean guys like tyson, maidana are always in control cos they are always the one chasing the other guy...which leads me to my next question...

    4) do you have to always go forward to have the centre of the ring? i dont see how this is possible going backwards?

    thanks alot i hope to hear you guys share your knowledge..

    ps i have never seen a thread on this topic so would appreciate some insight
     
  2. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am interested in the responses.

    I have no idea why it is stressed except in the case of Pure Boxers who need room to move.

    IMHO, if you have decent pop you don't give a damn where you are as long as you are not ALONG a rope as you can't circle.
     
  4. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1) The reason getting the centre of the ring is seen as important is becuase if you hold the centre then your opponent is easier to push and trap on the ropes. As well as providing you with a lot of backward steps to avoid punches etc.
    2) simply put you make sure your the 1st in the centre and you apply the pressure to your opponent not letting him "push" you out of there
    3) Watch klitchko vs Haye shows you both haye getting trapped on the ropes as well as vlad just stepping back avoiding punches due to the space behind him.
    4) Youi can go backwards and spin to the side at the same time forcing your opponent to change direction as well there fore you still have the centre of the ring
     
  5. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you control the center you're going to have your guy on or in dangerous proximity to the ropes most of the time. Controlling the center doesn't necessarily mean being IN the center.

    To me it means being between your opponent and the center. It's a pressure tactic.
     
  6. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    just found this...
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKCd0EjEM4M[/ame]
     
  7. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thanks for responses, keep em coming guys.

    were any of you taught this at the gym or something you just picked up?
    i was trained by some good coaches from a technical perspective but i was never taught a great deal of tactical stuff such as getting the centre of the ring etc
     
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  9. KillSomething

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    My one trainer will let his guys go at it until one guy is obviously getting the worst of it in a bad way, then he'll tell the other guy to take the center. You just go stand in the center of the ring and try to stay there. Gives the other guy (me) a bit of a break and a challenge for the guy holding the center.
     
  10. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    right, i gather that holding the centre can be difficult to maintain, unless you are strong and fit enough. probably not something everyone can do throughout a fight. both calzaghe and foreman had good engines to do so, and especially foreman he was very strong and powerful to push of anyone trying to budge him whereas calzaghe would flurry and pivot if he felt the opponent was trying to take the center.

    good stuff
     
  11. bballchump11

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  12. lefty

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    Why would it be different for a southpaw? One of the big reasons for holding the centre is to create the perception to judges that you are in control, your punches are easier to see and when you're on the ropes you can't step backwards.
     
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  14. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well for amateur boxing (i just learned this today) my coach told me its important to stay in the center of the ring because:

    a) the ropes is a dangerous place to be
    b) if your on the ropes too long and getting hit with big punches the ref is going to give you a standing 8 count.
    c) controlling the center of the ring gives you the advantage of placing your opponent where you want to put him.
     
  15. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Like has been said i also think its more about closing down the other fighter, not necessarily about staying in the centre of the ring but keeping the opponent away from it, using your position to make him predictable, putting pressure on so they waste energy trying to move around you, it only works if the other fighter is daft enough to let you do it.

    A good little trick for begginers to get a feel with this is to split the ring into 4 equal squares, instead you want to dominate the squares, dictate where he will go next and be there waiting for him, wait for the crissy, crossy footwork and nail em low and then up through the middle. its like running in the outside lane on a racing track, greater distances to travel, movements get limited while in a corner or on the ropes, unless their feet are moving all the time things get predictable, then there is the pressure to play with which is always fun, like i said this is all only if the fighter your up against allows it.