Edwin Rosario and Wilfredo Gomez comparisons

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wasn't fortunate enough to be following boxing during either of these fighters primes, and as a result have a hard time separating the two in my mind in any meaningful way as I've never so much as been able to read a single magazine from the relevant time period of have a conversation about how the two compared with knowledgeable boxing fans. Youtube and boxrec it is for this poor modern boxing fan.

    I know Wilfredo Gomez retained a higher level of consistency to see him through all his 122 pound title defenses, where as Rosario was stricken with substance abuse issues that robbed him of what very well could have been his prime. Or at least that's my understanding of it.

    How great are these two Puerto Rican fighters considered within that community? Was Rosario initially seen as the second coming of Gomez? Is there a premiere, consensus great fighter of all time from Puerto Rico?

    A fresh, explosive one round performance from a young "El Chapo" that wasn't previously available on youtube as a thank you to any and all responses. They're appreciated!

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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I'll try to help. Gomez at 122 was as good as it gets. One of the best at that weight. Superb boxer puncher. Could really do it all. Not as good obviously when he moved up.
    I remember Rosario was thought of as a phenom.
    So talented at a really young age. From what I've read since his passing is that drugs had him earlier in his career than most thought so most likely robbed of what he was capable of being. I really enjoyed watching both. Rosaries style was kind of unique I always thought.
     
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  3. Russell

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    What do you see that's unique in Rosario's style? I've only seen a handful of his bouts, the Chavez bout prominently.

    I know both ran into rocks they couldn't budge, Rosario against Chavez and Gomez moving up in weight again Sanchez. Is the consensus here, and or most places, that Gomez is substantially greater than Rosario?
     
  4. red cobra

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    Russell, I have high regard for Chapo, but he was no Bazooka Gomez. Within that ideal weight division of 122, Wilfredo Gomez was one of the finest, most total fighters that I have ever seen. If Bob Foster can be as highly rated and esteemed for his work in the lightheavy class, with no real regard for his disasterous forays into the heavyweight realm, then so be it for Wilfredo Gomez...he must be rated as an all time great...a magnificent fighter who could do it all in the 122 lb division. Edwin Rosario, as good as he was, never came close to approaching the Bazooka IMO.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gomez vs Zarate is proof of his greatness,...a shocking wipeout of another great fighter, and the titanic struggle he went through with Lupe Pintor before overcoming and clobbering his man...every bit as impressive a performance as Ali-Frazier lll btw, showed how well he could deal with adversity and triumph over it.
     
  6. Jel

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    Gomez was definitely a greater fighter than Rosario in pretty much every way - dominance, consistency, longevity and greatest wins. Rosario had talent but never really fulfilled his potential.

    The question about the greatest Puerto Rican fighter? I generally think it's between Gomez and Carlos Ortiz, but that Gomez edges it. Not sure if there is a clear consensus on this though.
     
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  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Thanku for that RC. You have a much better way with words than I do my pal.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol, only sometimes Robert...only sometimes...I find myself agreeing with your posts damned near all the time, my man!
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Russell
    The way Chapo held his hands was just different. He had those elbows flaired a lot of the times. It just looked different. I liked his angle changes. I just liked the guy. But as RC stated they were in a different zip code when it came to greatness.
     
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  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I think your in the minority with that brother LOL!!!
     
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  11. Russell

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    Fantastic posts so far, everyone. Robert, RC, & Jel. Thank you much!
     
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  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Russell now I'm just assuming drugs already had ahold of Rosario when he fought Chavez. Now I think Chavez beats any version of Rosario but I would have liked to have seen a completely clean Rosario
     
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  13. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Edwin Rosario was being hyped as the next Duran after his destruction of Edwin Viruet. He won the WBC LW title at 20. When he was good he was very good bordering on greatness. Well publicized his personal problems and drug problems and lack of training but less a severe right wrist injury that happened in first Juis Luis Ramirez fight and hampered him for the rest of his career. It never healed properly and it plagued some of his future performances. He would often start off strong, looking for early ko if he didn't come his punch rate would drop dramatically. He went from box puncher of the early Rosario to pure ko artist. If he didn't have this injury and have to change his style he might achieved greatness.
     
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  14. Russell

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    Bordering on greatness... Do you feel that that was his ceiling, to be close to it? Or could have have burst through to superstardom and a legacy he couldn't dream of now if he was more committed?

    Does anyone know how old Rosario was when his substance abuse issues began?
     
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