Edwin Rosario vs Ray Mancini

i have a feeling that rosario would put a terrible hurt on mancini.....

chapo by ko.

 

Rosario would have decapitated Mancini.

 

I have a feeling Mancini would somehow survive and comeback to stop Rosario in round 10.Arguello hit just as hard as Rosario and Mancini did well in that bout.

 

I used to think Rosario would just mop the floor with Ray, but I'm not so sure now. If you could pressure Chapo effectively (and if anyone could, it would be Mancini), then Rosario could be had.

Another thing about Rosario is his singularly awful punch resistance. It was strange watching him get hit with a good shot; he wasn't floored often (can't actually remember him ever going down, now that I think about it), but if he was hurt, he was just completely taken out of the fight. Zero recuperative powers. The effects of a good shot took him forever to overcome, if he could at all. For this reason, I pick Mancini by stoppage.

That said, it wouldn;t shock me at all to see Mancini go down hard, either.

 

Ramirez proclaimed loudly, in no uncertain terms after his decision loss to Rosario, that Chapo hit him much harder than Arguello did.

Alexis himself might not dispute this. El Flaco Explosivo was more of a precision marksman, who intuitively understood exactly how to place a punch for maximum effect. That's how Arguello broke Elizondo's jaw, rather than with brute power.

Mancini was there to be hit. Rosario was adept at slipping blows, and by squaring his shoulders to his opponent, it could be difficult to anticipate which side his next bomb might come from. Edwin would constantly rock on his toes back and forth, generating more thrust and speed with his blows than he might flatfooted. He faded badly in that first match with Ramirez, although finishing strong against the much less physical Davis Jr. In the first Ramirez fight, Rosario became the first major beneficiary of the shortened 12 round distance. There's no question that in a 15 round bout, Ramirez would have overtaken Rosario on the scorecards.

Of course Mancini was the winning boxer in the tragedy which led to Rosario's becoming a champion in the first place, the 14 round kayo over Deuk Koo Kim that has ultimately had such far-reaching lethal consequences for boxing as a mainstream sport.

As Ray ascended the ranks, only a master artisan like Arguello at his finest could systematically dismantle Boom-Boom as patiently as he did. Rosario, while good, never achieved that level of fine craftsmanship. Nobody ever blasted out Mancini as quickly as Rosario would need to, before beginning to fade himself. A ten round stoppage is feasible, but I would expect a champsionship round kayo for Ray here. Boom-Boom would hammer his body, manhandle him around, and break him down over several rounds, before Rosario finally crumpled. Chapo could dish it out, but Ray could take it. Too much tank for Ed.

 

Nice post (once again) Duodenum.
The first Rosario-Ramirez fight is an under-rated classic IMO and tends to be overshadowed by the mayhem of their second bout.

Mancini could definitely take some punishment and his conditioning was generally excellent.

I tend to agree that if Rosario can't starch Ray early (and let's face it who did?) then Ray wears Edwin down with his workrate, hooks to the body then head for a late TKO or SD (as Don King would be the promoter ).

 

Kind words always appreciated, of course, but dammit! I keep dating myself with remembered details!

Oh $h!t, if Dung King's the promoter, then all bets are off!

 

Personally i think Rosario had enough to get Ray out of there in his hot rounds. Ramirez really did take some fierce blows and i think Ray might have succumbed. Ray is there to be hit, but hits hard in return. Edwin TKO3 but if Mancini's there for say round 6 all bets are off.

 

Rosario would have to take Mancini out in the first half of the fight in order to win, which would be a very difficult task, seeing how Mancini was never stopped in the first half (I don't count his fight with Greg Haugen).

 

I respect 'Boom Boom' Mancini no end...he always came to fight...and his performances against Arguello and Ramirez underline his worthiness. I'm afraid Rosario would hit too hard for Mancini to overcome in this match-up, with Ray's come forward style, I don't know if he can stay on his feet against Rosario...IMO Rosario TKO 6 after two knockdowns. just a bad style for Ray.

 

Interesting quote from a Ray Mancini site regarding his title winning fight with Arturo Fritas:

"Before his confrontation with Frias and during training camp in

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, three gunmen paid a visit to Mancini at his hotel. The gunmen were told he was not there, they never came back, and Mancini trained with police surveillance until the fight".

Looks like Mancini could have been matched with Rosario for the WBC title in 1983 when Arquello moved up, but he already had the WBA title at the time (1982).

Maybe if he had brought a Champion's attitude to a Rosario fight he would have won....the old theory that being a champ makes you
15% better.

 

mancini get flattened in two.

 

I'm taking ray in a slugfest.... A 14 round slugfest

 

Even though Rosario was flawed as a fighter, he was still a league above Ray. Rosario in 3