Edwin Valero is found dead

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    'Advocate state sponsored killings' are your words, not mine...
     
  2. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    I haven't read the whole thread so I'm not sure if it's already been said but there are plenty of similarities between his downfall and that of Chris Benoit.

    I wonder if they will study his brain?
     
  3. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the only way to go after he did what he did.


    RIP to Valero and more importantly his wife!
     
  4. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go back and read everything I wrote and tell me I'm lying. You said you defend boxers from clowns. You defend idiots! Remember I was the one who asked what is up with you and the LOL crap. Are you even sure what that means. Anyway, I know an idiot when I see one and he was clearly an unstable one.
     
  5. MagicMan91

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    Top Rank head honcho Bob Arum said the suicide by hanging in a Venezuelan jail cell was "{the first sensible thing" that undefeated world lightweight champion boxer Edwin "El Inca" Valero had done lately.

    Arum, 78 and obviously worldly wise through a career first as a United States attorney and then four decades as one of boxing's leading fightmakers, was not being insensitive in his remarks to me Monday, he was just being realistic.

    "There's no need, no reason to play the blame game here. There were a lot of people, including his boxing manager (Jose Castillo) and Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, who tried to help this troubled guy out. I'm sure that Chavez and the government will help those two children (ages five and seven) who are left behind and now with a murdered mother and a father who killed her and then took his own life.

    "I was shocked, really shocked, when he murdered the wife but I was not shocked to hear this morning that he killed himself.

    Pacland - A sensational brawl that will never happen, Manny Pacquiao vs. Edwin Valero

    "I really figured it would end this way, starting from when he came down (from drugs and/or alchohol) and he realized what he had done to the wife.

    "So am I shocked that then killed himself, no I am not, because I believed he then realized he could either kill himself or spend the rest of his life in a prison cell," Arum said.

    Arum, who took on Valero for just two bouts under the Top Rank banner, said that Japanese promoter Akihiko Honda had warned company president and Arum stepson, Todd duBoef, that Valero had serious issues while living in Tokyo.

    "Todd was told by Honda that Valero had some real problems, drugs and alcohol problems, real substance abuse problems. The manager is a nice guy, a feeling guy, and he tried to do everything he could do for this kid.

    "What can you say now but rest in peace? Valero's smartest move, the only move he had left, was to take his own life. It is a tragic thing anyway you want to look at it," Arum said. "He wanted to avoid spending the rest of his life in jail and this way his only way to avoid it.


    Arum said Valero's gaudy 27-0, all by KO, record and his boxing potential is all "immaterial' now but he did pause to reflect on what might have been in the ring had Valero's personal demons away from the ring not ended his wife's life and then his own.

    It was clear that Arum fully intended to match southpaw slugger Valero against lefthanded puncher and Top Rank's chief client, Manny Pacquiao.

    "I would have had him fight two more times, moving up to 140 pounds," Arum said. "He and Manny would have been a great fight, two so energetic and charismatic punchers colliding.

    "I just think that this fight would have been a tremendous fight but now it does not matter.

    So be it, rest in peace."


    Fat lot of good you were Arum, you wanker. Don't recall him saying much about his drug use when he was making him money
     
  6. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Valero is dead, and we don't have anything to talk about except boxers that are living...
     
  7. RDJ

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    That's because no one can care about that until it happens because it hasn't happened yet :huh

    Preventing future crimes and punishing past crimes are not mutually exclusive. The best thing would be to end the life of whoever kills while at the same time trying to keep as many people from killing as possible. You can't prevent them all, pretending you can is living in a dream world.
     
  8. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valero was on that dope!!!
     
  9. Bart

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  10. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its sad that Valero vs Pacqiuao aint gona happen
     
  11. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hold up. Are you on that stuff he was taking. You started this thread, not me!:huh
     
  12. SharkAttack

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    Do you want to know who killed Kennedy too?

    I see you are in the conspiracy business
     
  13. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Valero is a classic example of a sociopath. Too bad nobody could help him. Sad and tragic turn of events for him and his family.
     
  14. SharkAttack

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    Sad but the real tragedy is other
     
  15. RDJ

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    If Chavez had him killed my respect for Chavez just increased tenfold. Make that hundredfold.