Edwin Valero at this stage gets his ass blasted by Carlos Ortiz, who has more to his game. Ortiz can punch take a punch, is strong and has fought better fighters in 15 rd Championship fights, he is an ATG and Hall of Famer. This comparison at this stage is unfair to Valero the guy is just starting let him build something first before we start comparing him with some of the very best of all time.
why you guys dont take this **** to the classics forum.. nobody will ever know.. a prime this vs a prime that .. you guys love that ****
Oh good bro, I was like wtf... Ortiz by dominance. Let Valero fight a Loi, Brown, Laguna, Elorde level first.
no matter what valero does with his career, he'll never have a shot in hell at being competitive with a legend like this.
You cant b e so sure about that. For as great as Carlos Ortiz was there is a a few elite guys i would put over him in the last 10 years.
Since 2000 you really think they has been someone even close to as good as Carlos? Mayweather is the closet I can think of. But of course Ortiz easily has the better record at the weight.
Kinda of depends if you wanna call fighters that hit their prime in the00s or fighters that fought in the oos FIgheters id put in the 00s over Carlos OriZ Delahoya Mayweather pacquiao Mosley Jones in his prime hopkins Id put Barrera, Morales on par with Carlos ortiz and yes Marquez right on hIs ass!! Even the overrated Lewis is only a little behind Carlos Ortiz Dlh Hopkins
Yeah I thought you meant at lightweight anarci...my bad. I wouldnt have a lot of those guys over Ortiz alltime personally though.
