a KO by guzman is a possibility, maybe because valero was stunned a number of times by "cab drivers" and the high punch volume (though running) style of guzman may cause enough damage to KO valero. But the winner of this fight might get the attention of team pac as it will produce a big ppv payday for them. (assuming pac beats jmm of course)
You want to make a 6 month avatar bet right now with me? If he lasts the distance with Guzman I'll have any avatar you want for half a year, vice versa.
How a person can have almost 4,000 posts on a boxing forum and then think Valero even has a tiny chance against Guzman is mind boggling, but I'm glad you took this bet. I'm not worried about losing this at all. You're lucky that the match probably won't happen because even Valero knows he has no chance. Guzman will probably knock Valero out before the 6th round. You'll see.
Since when was the LAST time GurRUN ko'D anybody?! Maybe the last fight before he fought Soto. But his fight with Soto just proved he is fast but NO power!!!! He landed Soto hundreds of Punches but Soto was PRACTICALLY ON HIS FEET. How can you logically say he can KO Valero. On the other hand, though Valero pratically KO all of his little known opponnents (except for Mosqueda). wHO knows if he is lucky and GuzRUN is slow enought to RUN he might be ko'd too!?!
When has Valero been stunned except in the Mosquera fight? Mosquera was WBA champ at the time by the way. At this point Guzman's speed and defense will earn him a UD against Valero, unless the Venezuelan can improve his skills.
I realize that anything can happen in any sport. But we're not debating whether it is physically possible for Valero to beat Guzman or not. We are debating his chances and I am telling you that Valero has about a 1% chance to win and a 5% chance to survive 12 rounds. And the odds of "one punch changing everything" are extremely small when you consider Guzman's iron chin. Also, when you consider their styles and talent, you should be able to understand that Guzman will counter the **** out of Valero effortlessly and absolutely destroy him. Valero has been badly hurt and dropped by featherfisted Mosquera. Guzman isn't open like Mosquera to say the least and he has perfect timing/accuracy with insane handspeed. Anyways.. lets both hope this fight happens and hopefully you will respect Guzman more after he owns that hypejob.
mosquerra was champ, but imo, was not a great one. I saw this two fights in youtube where I think valero was stunned, or of course I may have been mistaken. I'll look for the link so I can show it to you so you can decide if valero was stunned (or on the contrary, may have been hit hard but was unaffected. Again, I may be wrong)
yup my friend, valero was knocked down in the third round with a right hook (i think) by mosquera. Valero of course got up and beat the **** out of mosquera, hence he is now champ, too.
yup, pac was actually floored twice while fighting in his home town, Philippines. Once was against a Russian in Manila, and the other was against Nadal Hussin. Actually in the Hussein knockdown, i think referee carlos padilla kind counted slow, or its just me. Its on youtube too
yea i remember now, i was confused coz you where talking about valero being stunned and i knew he went down.