Edwin Valero vs Joan Guzman

Well, if you watch valero fight and try to count his punches, you'll have a real hard time trying to measure it when he throws combinations. Sometimes he throws a 3 punch combination in less than 1 second. That's pretty damn fast if you ask me. I have no trouble trying to measure guzman's, soto's or gamboas punching.

 

wont even be close

guzman by wide ud or by late tko

 

Guzman isn't knocking out Valero, I could see a decision where he counters and then jogs half way around the ring with Valero chasing him, but his tissue paper for fists isn't KO'ing the V-nom.

 

Who cares. We don't want to see another Guzman snore fest.

 

Don't insist on your STUPID ARGUEMENT buddy. Valero fights like a ****i'n robot . . . what speed are you talking about? :roll:

Guzman has the speed Valero has the power . . . that's real. :yep

Now don't talk about Valero being too fast for Guzman . . . dumb****! :-( :huh

 

Rustico Torrecampo (pinoy) knocked him out with a low blow.

Medgoen's knockout in Thailand was legit.

 

Don't invent lies buddy. I'm a pacfan too. Where did you get the story that Torrecampo knocked Pac out with a low blow? :think

That K.O. was legit . . . it has been long argued if it was the head punch or the punch on the side of the body which put him down because it's simultaneous but never there was a mention of a low blow.

Even Pacquaio or his handlers never made a claim it was a low blow up to this time.

 

Guzman would destroy Valero

 

You wouldn't be Amsterdam now would you?

 

Guzman would win every round he felt like winning.

 

I'm not disputing how you see it . . . point is it's offcially not a low blow. You cannot change what happened in the past dude . . . that's already part of history.

Did you hear or did you see any arguement in written article or what ever that it was a low blow?

Pac himself said he lost no excuses. The only written article I found on that it that Pac came into the fight not prepared.

 

guzman in a wide ud....118-110...and im being nice to valerho

 

This happened OVER 10 YEARS AGO! It's immaterial already. Now if this happened maybe at least three or four years ago probably it could still matter..

Just a typical pac hater who wants to highlight something about pac. They have nothing to say about the recent history so they have to dig so deep in the HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS IN 10 LONG YEARS AGO!!!! atsch atsch atsch atsch atsch atsch atsch atsch atsch

 

:yep :good

 

I am interested in Guzman fighting anybody at 130, he needs to fight top guys, he really really needs Pac Man. And if he can't get him, he needs to move up to 135 to fight Juan Diaz. Simply put time is running out for Guzman, he is 30, and he needs to get some good wins under his belt.