Edwin VALERO vs. Joel CASAMAYOR @ Las Vegas in September

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Casa is done, and anyone who thinks he can beat Valero whether you are a bandwagon PAc fan or imitation Floyd fan wins is on drugs. You're chances are better trying to be friends with Pac fans and trying to get me banned for talking about Pac taking the Cotto fight over Shane lol...
     
    NALLEGE, Jun 17, 2009
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  2. NALLEGE

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    Suggest all you want but Casa has no balance now, and I ain't going back into time talking about who woulda won between the two lol. You got phony posters here picking Valero to lose to any top of the line shot fighters
     
    NALLEGE, Jun 17, 2009
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  3. GmoNavarro

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    If is the same casamayor who fought jmm i would lean casamayor, but the first 3 rounds would be very important for valero if it past the 3rd one i would go for casa...
     
    GmoNavarro, Jun 17, 2009
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  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Valero can bang. The jury is still out on whether or not he can do anything else of substance. Casa will be a good test, but come on, in terms of technique Valero has a lot to learn, and Casa might be the one to teach him, even at the advanced age at which he finds himself.
     
    El Cepillo, Jun 17, 2009
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Unreadable. What the **** :rofl.
     
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  6. Damo1712

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    i think valero will close it out early on within 4 and have another ko on his record
     
    Damo1712, Jun 17, 2009
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  7. Solid Chin

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  8. NALLEGE

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    Casa is done. He is not Hop. Valero is a much better boxer than you give him credit for...
     
    NALLEGE, Jun 17, 2009
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  9. NALLEGE

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    I'm glad posters are responding to each other lol. You got posters here who don't even get respect on a boxing forum lol. Uncircumcized video game wizards trying to talk boxing. Mike Tyson punchout type avy using mofo's lol...
     
    NALLEGE, Jun 17, 2009
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  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Prime Casa would embarrass Valero and knock him out,but this way past his best version gets koed thats why he was picked in the first place.
     
    bladerunner, Jun 17, 2009
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  11. diavolievo

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    I favor Valero to win this one, but I just can't count Casa out. I think he is crafty enough that he could still pullout a decision on this.

    This would be Valero's first test.
     
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  12. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I like Valero. He can punch and he's exciting.

    But his technique is sloppy as hell, and this has been highlighted against significantly less accomplished opponents than the likes of Casamayor.

    Valero is going to need to do a lot of things differently, he's going to need an actual discernable jab for a start. He's going to need to put his hands up and keep his chin down. Casa is a great counter-puncher, and Valero leaves himself wide open every time he throws one of those looping bombs.

    If Valero underestimates Casa in any way, or if Valero's technique does not signfiicantly improve, then it will be a very long and painful night for him.
     
    El Cepillo, Jun 17, 2009
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  13. Knives7

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    I'll have to give Valero the edge because of Casamayor's old age, but Casamayor can still beat him. If he loses I'm not gonna be shocked.
     
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  14. NALLEGE

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    I take it you missed Valero's last fight. He showed a jab, technique, and power. Valero is a gym rat, and Casa is too old at this stage of his career to beat Valero.
     
    NALLEGE, Jun 17, 2009
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  15. NALLEGE

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    Casamayor is one of my all time favs Hoya, but you won't get anyone except his fans or Pac's fans picking Casa to beat Valero at this stage of his career. They will say it here, but won't bet a penny on Casa lol...
     
    NALLEGE, Jun 17, 2009
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