Edwin Valero Vs Juan Manuel Marquez at 135 . . . . what a fight it would have been

You are watching fighters on HBO thinking that they are the best (with some exception) just because they are televised on the big screen when the reality is, their not.. Some of them only have lots of fans who would be willing to pay just to see them fight.. Casual fight fans who have the money and the power to make such media hype.. :bart

The difference between Pac and Valero is that, Pac fought the guys who would give him more value in the market and Valero did not.. Of course its not their personal will but its the promoter's will.. I actually can't blame such fan like you who thought that Valero just destroyed 27 boxers by TKO/KO and thinking it was there for granted..

Why did DeMarco quit anyway? Its the same thing as why did Oscar quit against Manny? You think they would have managed to stand on their legs with the remaining rounds left? :bart

JMM ducked Valero at that time.. We all know that Valero would just make JMM his stepping stone to make into the mainstream.. JMM fought Likar Ramos in preparation against Pac for their third meeting.. It only means that he is confident on winning that fight.. JMM fought Sedchenko as his bounce back fight because he knew he can beat Sedchenko.. Valero asked JMM's camp for a fight then they turned him down and instead, they fought Joel Casamayor.. :confMaybe its because I'm not a fan of Casamayor that I thought it wasn't that impressive.. :think

Maybe we could talk about Vlad in a different thread.. :smoke

 

Valero is very much underrated here.. atsch
Valero actually took Morales on school in sparring when Morales was preparing for his first meeting with Pac.. After Barrera lost to Pacquioa, he told that the only guy who would beat Manny is his sparring partner, Valero.. Valero busted Oscar's face in sparring, which means Oscar has headgear and Valero has a 12 oz gloves..

Maybe you could fix this for yourself.. :smoke

And replace Valero with JMM..