Edwin Valero what a waste!

As a Boxer he was not overrated....was a nasty brutal tough fast walk up Fighter with major psychological Problems but do not underestimate his class....But as a person he was the worst of the worst been a few in Boxing over the years this bloke is up there pretty close to number 1 as Biggest Psychopath Boxing has ever seen.!!!!

 

Piece of ****.

Pacquiao would have tore his head off.

 

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Underestimate his class? His biggest step up in real professional non-sparring competition, by far, was B-grade lightweight Antonio DeMarco. (and off the very top of my head I'm not sure DeMarco isn't his best opponent, period, incl. the amateurs). Whence are you getting the whole cloth to fabricate this notion of his 'class'?

 

As it happens, yes.

 

Several fighters of that time obliterate him.

In 2008/09 the real dynamita would've countered him to death and his surrogate son Manny Pacquiao would've took it to him and showed Valero what savagery really is.

 

Even some of the short-of-great contemporaries in his weight range over whom Valero was often favored in hypothetical match-ups (Humberto Soto & Joan Guzmán) very well might have beaten him.

Again, he beat DEMARCO. That's all.

 

And iirc he didn't even look good doing it

 

We should stop bringing him up. His name needs to die, along with his legacy. He should only be spoken about in boxing circles as a cautionary tale. Total POS.

 

To put that in perspective,

Jorge Linares has been borderline venerated on these pages and was touted as some kind of threat to Vasyl Lomachenko (or a live dog and worthy challenger, at very least) based on very little in the way of wins over proven world class opposition.

A reminder of what Tony DeMarco did to Jorge Linares;
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Valero fought who he could fight up until the time he passed. He impressed everybody he faced in the gym (was avoided by some of them, and run out of sparring by DLH), and the bouts we were able to see him in made it pretty clear he wasn't a sufferer of 'sparring partner mentality'.

 

So what?

Fighters lose to lesser talents all the time.

 

What did Jorge Linares ever do to justify the favor he receives by contrast with the routine denigration of Valero?

 

Beat fighters better than DeMarco for a start.

 

Also, two points: #1. Linares gets horribly underrated. #2. He has literally nothing to do with this thread.

 

Like who? The most prestigous names in Linares' win column were various shades of faded when he fought them (Chavez and Juarez were all washed up, while Larios was on the downside). After that, you've got Mitchell, Crolla and Campbell. Hardly a murderers' row or levels above DeMarco.

He's also been splattered by Salgado, Thompson and Cano.


And I'm referring to a great disparity in the way these two Venezuelans are regarded. What is it based on, other than one being a nice guy and the other not being a nice guy?