EE fighters are proving that turning pro after age 25 is ridiculous

So essentially it made no difference with Loma having his second fight with Salido. I'd say if you compared them time for time Loma was a bigger name going in against Salido than Ward was v Kessler.

Ward got five years working through the pro ranks, Loma spent the same five years winning another Olympic medal and fighting better competition in WSB. When it comes down to it legacy wise no one is going to remember very little of Wards first twenty pro fights, maybes the Miranda win and getting put down by Boone and that's it.

 

Toad

 

That's Todd the toad.

 

This.

How many EE fighters have made themselves superstars at the box office?
It’s just different routes. Personally, I quite like how a boxer can come from nowhere and be as good as the likes of Usyk, Loma, Beterbiev. It can get quite frustrating watching obvious talents take on hopeless journeyman over and over.
The Koborov story shows it is risky, but my, these EE fighters will take on challenges from any corner. They are far more interested in legacy then whether or not they’re getting their ‘worth’.

 

But that's my point. You can turn pro at 20 and are often no further forward than a guy turning pro at 25 if they have more amateur experience and have have skipped the journeyman/domestic levels.

Even more so with WSB and Aiba Pro, Olympics featuring pros, amateurs no longer donning the headguards etc.

Everyone has a different route, there isnt a proven method to greatness, all boxers are different and have different circumstances so need pushing in different ways.

There's no way to say Golovkin would have done better had he turned over at twenty and we t straight to America, he could have been matched poorly, suffered inactivity and not developed into the fighter he did. It's a shame he didn't get some of the bigger fights earlier but tbh I don't think he would have anyway. Guys like Martinez, Cotto and Sturm were all looking for a payday to line the retirement funds, Golovkin wasn't the man to do so at that time.

 

You have Usyk p4p#2?

 

I've always thought that. Their careers could be better if they had more time to develop as pros. They could peak earlier as pros.

 

In boxing, the longer you fight the more money you make. Most guys make nothing for their first couple of years, then they make a lot of money in like their last two or three years. I wouldn't be surprised if they made 50% or more of their money in the last two to three years. Mayweather didn't have his first pay per view until he was nine years in.

 

Lol

 

Their age when they turned pro isn’t as big a factor as you think you idiot. Bottom line is certain morons in here need to stop trying to diminish Loma and Usyks accomplishments in 14 fights by bringing up the age and time in amateurs being an advantage while ALWAYS being the first ones to say “Ams don’t mean **** doe! They ain’t da pros!”

Soooo which is it?? Ams don’t mean **** and aren’t the pros?? Or they actually do so winning golds there and compiling records like GGG’s, Usyk’s and Loma’s are amazing accomplishments and in turn are a major factor in gaging what kind of boxer we are looking at?? So they DO “mean ****!”

Feel free to name other boxers that took on and beat the same level of opposition Loma and Usyk have in 14 fights while having amateur records like theirs...

Lol “What Loma and Usyk have done isn’t really THAT amazing” ~ TS

 

Imagine if GGG, Gvozdyk, Beterbiev, Kovalev, Usyk and Loma all added ball shots, hometown judges and fought strictly across the pond on their turf. Lol! They would all be undefeated and stay that way.

 

His father I believe recommended him to stay as an amateur because his body was still not fully mature. I was really hoping he'd turn pro earlier but it is what it is, can't really blame him, Olympics are very highly viewed in Soviet bloc countries.

 

I agree with the premise of this thread though, 25 is a bit too late. By the time you're even gonna get your chance, if lucky is at 30 years old, unless you're Lomachenko with an over the top amateur pedigree. That leaves almost no time at all for any kind of extended career at the pros to get you into HOF/ATG.

But I think many of these guys know that and are fine with it, pros are probably just an opportunity to make some cash before retirement.