Effective Nutrition for Weight Loss while training very hard

I hope you haven't given him the same nutritional advice that you follow, don't you compete in strongman competitions or something? Very different nutritional needs than someone who is competing in boxing.

 

Hey, try it out, by all means. I stand by what I said, and I am a very open minded individual when it comes to training methods, you don't know anything about me apart from these posts.
"Opening up that mind a little", my ass. You have no idea.

No, thanks for asking. And who knows, he could be doing something completely different. Just asking after his progress and how things are going, clocks are ticking till his fight.

And I disagree with pretty much everything in this post except the bold part. We can agree to disagree as you take offence if I ask you what results you have gotten or why you are supportive of your own methods with nothing to show for it (or do you have something to show for it? when I asked you only said what does that matter, you could be a top athlete or coach). For me its all about trying things yourself, THEN recommending them to others or making changes to them etc. And I'm not even close to the mentality of "more is better" or "hey it worked for all these people", but its going to be hard to prove over the internet with you, so I won't try.

Basically what summed up our differences is the fact you would take studies over a gold medalist's word. I understand what you are saying about people can reach the top despite a lot of things and due to a lot of other things, and you'd be a fool if you just took 1 guy's word for your whole philosophy and training principles, that's not what I meant, but that's the same as you wouldn't take 1 guy study as gospel for everything.

You don't know enough of what I am talking about or what I am telling people to do or what I am doing myself, to try and contradict or disagree with me, and you have a very condescending manner "shut the **** up, I'm a sports science student", way to convince me there, so I have very little regard for what you say anyway, you can feel free to disagree anything I say.

 

And this is going pretty offtopic, make a new one if you like.

 

I agree with this.

if your going to have a protien shake have it with in an hour before working out.

theres anabolic and catabolic and when your working out you break down muscles putting them in an catabolic state. if you have protien avaiable for your muscles while working out you can maintain an anabolic state while working out.

after your work out id go with chocolate milk sugars for glucose stores and protien in the milk. after a work out protien isnt as needed if you had a shake before hand and theres plenty of protien in the milk. plus ive herd your body can only use so much protien at a time and the rest you pretty much **** out, dont know if thats true but if so another protien shake after working out would seem like a waste of money.

if your hungry before bed protien is definatly your best choice some cottage cheese tuna, baked chiken protien bar ect will fill you up just like carbs but wont really turn into fat over night.

 

I like chicken, I like liver, meow mix meow mix please deliver!

 

livers not too bad either though alittle fatty and not the best flavor.

 

thanks, good luck with your match

 

No problem, would like to hear your thoughts when you got a few.
No reason why not to try some different stuff out. The main thing with you is the 24 hour weighin and the week before your fight, you can drop some reasonable weight in that time, as well as until then.

 

When have I ever said anything about taking one person's study as gospel? We're talking about nutrition for athletes, something that has been studied extensively. We're talking about everyday macronutrients, it's not secret stuff and the results are conclusive.
I'm sorry if I come off as condescending but it does annoy me when people are arrogant enough to put their own ideas and beliefs above established science.
I don't have to know anything about you other than you hold the commonly held misconception that to maintain or build muscle you need to have stupid amounts of protein. If you've achieved your goals or had the people you've trained achieve their goals then congratulations, but it was despite your/their nutrition habits.
I'm open to changing my opinion on anything if their is credibilty to what they're claiming, ie. controlled studies by scientists in the particular field. Even theories that sound plausible and explain the contradictions to previous studies could be enough to change my ideas.
But personal ancedotes and experiences?
Not credible mate, olympic athletes or not.
I don't have anything else to say to you, I know that someone with a mentality like you has nothing to teach me.

 

"ie. controlled studies by scientists in the particular field."
read: people who go out to prove a particular point, usually. You should "open that mind" of yours there.

There are some sources and studies which are indeed gospel when it comes to training methodology, but you probably don't know them, because if you did, you wouldn't be going out of your way to post what you are posting.

Continue as you are then, and we will see which one of us ever achieves anything in their chosen sporting endeavors.

 

Okay then, good luck bud

 

I feel exactly the same way towards you as you feel towards MrSmall. :yep

But no hard feelings, and good luck. :hi:

 

Hi MrSmall,
Any chance I could get the PM too please?
Many thanks.

 

Hi-five, friendo!
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