Eléyder Álvarez Baytar vs. Sergey Alexandrovich Kovalev II & Óscar Valdez vs. Carmine Tommasone RBR

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    To be honest, I was going to ask you the same thing.:lol: I had no idea how you could have given Alvarez 4 rounds, I found that shocking.

    Yeah, I went back and watched the Russian broadcast and the Boxnation broadcast, for no bias and some BoMack and Poncher bias, nothing changed my mind, although the BoMack/Poncher commentary was awfully persuasive, they were overreacting to everything Alvarez landed on Kovalev, any time he knocked Sergey off balance, they freaked out, meanwhile I saw that he wasn't hurt badly and didn't freak out in the least. For the record, the best call was actually Bradley, Ward and Tessitore for a change.:lol:

    I didn't think Kovalev was going to be blown out, I picked him to win, and was fairly confident, because I had faith in my theory that losing clean would motivate a stubborn mother****er like Kovalev, and I'd been listening to McGirt's recent interviews about going back to the basics, and I went in wanting to see the jab consistently early, and he was delivering, combined with the several one twos and rights he landed off and on throughout the first three. Then when you mix in Alvarez's lack of activity, sure he was accurate, but Kovalev was too, and more active, I ended up genuinely thinking Kovalev outworked him in and won all 3. When combined with the expectation game in my head, of expecting Kovalev to win and not be brutally KO'd, maybe I went in with a clearer head than most.:nusenuse:As far as the 7th, I came this close to giving that one to Alvarez, but thought Kovalev responded well enough to nick that one.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Kovalev was busier in the first three but I wouldn't say he was accurate, nor was anything he did land worth crowing about, besides a couple of very isolated shots in each round. He just didn't look sharp to me or to have gotten himself going until the fourth. :nusenuse:
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought 3,6,and 7 could go to Alvarez. after 8 or so I stopped scoring. there was one other round that seemed close-ish maybe 11

    I was ok with the 12-0 sweep despite thinking Alvarez could have been given 2 rounds if not 3

    I didnt think kovalev had that type of fight left in him. I was expecting him to get stopped again.

    now like the first fight alvarez's jab did get in kind of easily when he threw it and did snap kovalevs head back but the right hand was not prevalent enough though he landed a few good ones

    kovalev moved so well away from the punch and just kept peppering him with singles rather than home runs

    I would like to see Alvarez and co discuss the loss and learn more about their prep and sparring partners because they looked completely unprepared for the mobile and more busy kovalev who fought more of a point scoring fight
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    If anybody else is looking to recheck their work on their scorecard, or make one for the first time:

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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Not going to disagree necessarily, but the same applies to Eleider, only without the activity. What about those rounds could be cited as making them definitive for Alvarez?
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Decent interview from Duva.
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I just hate Kellerman and I wanna throw that out there. The way he deep throats that droopy dog-eyed licky lip clown Ward is as grotesque as the inside of a cannibalistic serial killer's fridge and I just cannot stand him. And the way the whole commentary team with the exception of Timachenko were constantly taking little snide shots at Kovalev and pushing that whole played out ''bully'' narrative nonsense was vomit inducing too. Can somebody please empty the trash and raise Manny Steward from the dead or failing that drag Paulie and Al Bernstein over to ESPN.
     
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  8. CST80

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    :risas3: & :deal:
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :D
     
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  10. thegoose86

    thegoose86 Member Full Member

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    Kovalev didn't even look very good but Alvarez flat out stunk thought he'd get the KO despite not being a puncher. I had it 116-112 Kovalev but it felt like a wide 116-112
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah most of it from the fourth on was a schooling by the Krusher. :thumbsup:

    Even if you give Storm the first three and the seventh as I did, they are just by the skin of his teeth. Kovalev had seven concretely dominant, controlling rounds OTOH.
     
  12. thegoose86

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    I think Alvarez won at least 3 rounds but at the end of the day Kovalev won. but, buddy mcgirt even called it a close fight. even though it wasn't close. to be fair the rounds Kovalev lost alvarez hit him with good jabs or good body shots in the first moments and instead of trying to win the rounds Kovalev kept distance. which was smart but I woulndt say it won him the rounds but it DID save him from using energy to get a round or 4 back that he lost.
     
  13. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    After re-watching the fight, Alvarez only won 3 rounds on my scorecard (3, 7, 11).
     
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  14. thegoose86

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    there was a late round 10th or 11th that alvarez had his idea of going for it while. the word schooling is weird because I don't even know what it was, when Alvarez threw a punch he landed. he didn't miss many shots very high accuracy 50% power landed but he just didn't throw, he just waited for the perfect shot the whole fight??

    I mean when there was the lead up to the fight I was picking a ko for ALvarez then once I heard his trainer was buddy I knew that Kovalev would not get a ko victory... or even go for the KO so I was thinking... okay it might go 12 then... if it goes 12 and alvarez goes for the KO
    Kovalev will win a tedious fight. and without context that fight was Tideous.

    I also have to say. almost everyone in alvarez vs Kovalev 1 said "ko 4" or "early KO"

    and in the rematch everyone that picked Kovalev said early Ko even cst80 said KO 4 which I never seen Kovalev koing alvarez. credit to buddy McGirt. but Alvarez just messed up his futurure badly. he would have had 7 fights for 7 figures.... and he fought like THAT?!?
     
  15. thegoose86

    thegoose86 Member Full Member

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    I gave him one more but hey 3,7,11 are rounds I gave too!
    there fore I say excellent score card.
     
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