El Finito - Where does he rate All Time LB4LB?

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    On ability..pretty high.

    On resume..not very high.

    Average it out..I used to think just inside the top100..about 85-95. Those lists are starting to grate on me now, I dont think I will do one again..and the one I have now would probably have glaring inconsistencies and contradictions all over the place.
    Id say he would probably be outside it to be honest.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    He was an excellent fighter. I don't know if we can call him great without truly proving it, though. Depends.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have a problem with miniumweights

    1. There isn't many of them in the world, far fat less in this weight class than Welters, that means there is far less competition because the talent pool just isnt there

    2. Some 10yo kids would beat the crap out of them because they are so small and weak

    Ricardo Lopez looked excellent on film and has had a nice long run but the above 2 points harm him in my estimation.
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, no matter how weak the division was, Lopez still eviscerated it, and it's not like every fighter he faced was a total scrub.

    Ohashi wasn't amazing, but Lopez still handled him more consclusively than Chang did.

    Ala Villamor, Rocky Lin, Andy Tabanas, and Kermin Guardia were decent scalps, and so were Nene Sanchez and (a couple of pounds over the weight) Potelo and Vorapin.

    The two fights with Alavarez were extremely close, but Rosendo was a very, very good fighter in his own right. So, for all intents and purposes, Finito cleaned out the division and looked pretty damned impresssive in the process. And that's enough for him to land in the lower reaches of my Top 50 as a result.
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    :patsch
     
  7. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    El Finito fought the best his division had to offer each time he won (except the controversial draw)

    He is the #1 ATG minimum weight fighter.
     
  8. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's the only guy for the last 20 years or so I personally think is "great".
     
  9. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree with this,

    for every one strawweight, im thinking that there must be at least 3-4 bantams, 5 feathers, 10 lightweights, 10 middle weights, 12 heavy weights etc etc.

    until alveraz, he did every thing so well and text book that one could only speculate a argument that he was the one greatest fighter in history, he never lost as a amature or pro and although i have never seen all his fights, the fights that i have seen (pre alveraz) where absolutley one sided.

    but when rosendo alveraz came, there was finally a measuring stick with both fights very evenly contested.

    i would have loved to see him fight a guy slightly bigger (aside from alvarez who came in overweight in the rematch) like carbajal, gonzalez or johnson.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I couldn't list Ricardo Lopez in my top 100 because he doesn't have the resume to justify it. Consistency isn't enough down at Minimum-weight.