Elephant in the room. When will Usyk start noticeably declining? He's 35 in 4 months.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FastSmith7, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    This is one of my concerns.
    Usyk is pushing 35 years old, lets say AJ vs Usyk rematch will happen in March 2022, he'll be 35 by then.

    He'll probably fight Joyce if he beats Joshua again, in September - October 2022.

    Then he'll fight for the undisputed vs Fury most likely... that would be in April - May 2023

    At that point he'll be 36 years old.

    Usyk is a guy who relies on reflexes, speed and footwork... attributes that start declining after the age of 32-33. I'm worried Usyk might decline noticeably in the next 18 months. It's a pity he didn't move to HW 2 years earlier.
  2. dragon666

    dragon666 Active Member Full Member

    Apr 28, 2021
    he probably has another 2 years if he keeps himself healthy and in good shape.

    If he fights Joshua, Joyce and Fury he can then retire afterwards. Legacy wise he's already achieved everything he can.
  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    A few more years.

    Hopefully he can get a few big fights in before then and make mega money.
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  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 8, 2013
    He takes care of himself he's got 2 years and probably about 4 fights left. He looked razor sharp last night. It was a peak performance.
  5. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Active Member Full Member

    Dec 20, 2020
    Have to agree - it's hard to see how Usyk can sustain that level of performance for another 24 months; he has been fighting a long time, has had injuries, and even though he clearly defeated Joshua, there is still wear & tear in each fight - how much did that win take out of Usyk?

    Whilst I think Usyk is too fast for Joyce, if he declined noticably then that fight could also take a fair bit out of him to as Joyce is durable and has a hard jab.

    Personally, I'd like to see Usyk vs Fury / Wilder (Fury lol) for all the marbles mid 2022.

    Then Usyk should retire after, win/lose or draw
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  6. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2017
    What I'm about to say is unpopular, but I'll say it anyway.

    I think Usyk should retire immediately: no rematch for Joshua and no fight with Fury or Wilder. Last night's performance transformed Usyk from a hall of famer into a FIRST BALLOT unanimous hall of famer. I also think he's even more bad @ss for defending his title(s) in multiple challengers' backyards. He can retire today at 19-0 and leave everybody to wonder "what-if?"
  7. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 7, 2018
    He has maybe 1 more year. They usually decline after 35-36
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  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically stay humble Full Member

    Sep 5, 2016
    Even if he starts slowing down (which he’s already doing if you compare him to his WSB iteration) he still has way too much boxing iq for anyone barring an on-form Fury to cope with. Who’s going to outbox Usyk in this current division? Whyte? Wilder? Ruiz? Only Joyce has the physicality and awkwardness to cause him issues, and as an Usyk fan that’s the one fight that’d give me reservations, even if he beat him back in the day.
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  9. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    Usyk has slowed down a little bit but hes a better fighter now, he is still very good physically while having a ton more experience, however theres a thin line between having the right balance and declining
  10. MagicE

    MagicE Active Member Full Member

    Aug 16, 2017
    He's already showing signs of decline.
  11. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

    Oct 31, 2020
    Its definitely a big 4 right now with Uysk, Joshua, Wilder and Fury.

    The whole generation will hit decline at about the same time.
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  12. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 23, 2015
    He’s got a year or 2
    Left. Hope he retires soon
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    He already is declining, and it's not a small one. I have said it long time ago, last time he was on his truly prime was against Gassiev.
    Everything is slower now, his energy level, and punching output is lower, compare to his best, as well as his reflexes are not what it's used to be. :D
    Still the guy is so so so good, he is still ahead of the rest.
    But you could always expect a bad night, because of the age factors, just like he had one against Chisora.
    Most people start declining physically and struggle with a lot of stuffs(recovery is harder, and a lot of other factors come harder already and etc), between 30-32.
    This is no where near his form against Gassiev, or if you compare it to his WSB time.
    He may have just 19 fights, but there was against living, hard opponents, and also he is wasting tons of energy on his camps, cause his training is insanely HARD. He is preparing for 15 rounds, 4 minute rounds with 30 sec. rest between, which is insane.
    He also suffer some injuries which accelerate the process, and gaining weight for new division and putting more hard weight work, is not an easy thing at this age.
    And i truly believe the guy is all natural, at least his body scream that, which is like 100x time harder, compare to the guys on PED, which obviously can increase your career lifespan.

    I think Wladimir manage to be in his physically prime for so long, was an absolutely amazing, and it's very very hard to be replicate by anone.
    I think Klitschko prime starting to left him, when he hit 37, and Manny died at that time.
    Till then he was an absolutely beats, but decline after that was big, and obvious.

    So my guess is if Usyk is lucky he can get 1-2-3 great camp, and if he had a good days, he can give us as much as 3 rock solid fights.
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  14. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    Does not matter. What he did yesterday goes into the history books. He defeated a unified 2 time dominant heavyweight champion who had beaten every man he ever faced. He is the man.
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    Usyk can make more money in his next fight than he has in his entire career to date. He will not be retiring now, or in two yeas time.

    He'll fight until he is 39-40.

    Just my guess.
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