Elite Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Harry Greb @ 160

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Elite Ray Leonard v Harry Greb @160

  1. Leonard by Elite KO

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%

  2. Leonard by Elite Decision

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%

  3. Greb by Dec

    16 vote(s)
    57.1%

  4. Greb by KO

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Does Ray's eliteness outclass the busy brawler Greb over 15?

    Arthur Mercante, Sr. Ref.

    If you believe that Ray wins this and Monzon, does that make him the greatest middleweight ever to lace them up?
     
    Seamus, Dec 23, 2018
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  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    If Greb can beat a LHW Tunney, he can beat Leonard over 15. Greb UD, with Leonard's face looking like a raw steak after
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Dec 23, 2018
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  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where are the 'Non-Elite' (pre-No Mas) options for Leonard?
     
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  4. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes Leonard KO's them both early with a MW record of 1-1 :eatingburger
     
    surfinghb, Dec 23, 2018
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  5. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Really hard to tell without actual footage of Greb.

    However, based on the fact that Greb fought as high as heavyweight and that his natural weight was 160, and that the smaller Ray had some trouble against swarmers with good chins which Greb certainly was, I'll go with Greb.
     
    BCS8, Dec 23, 2018
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  6. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I just can't pick a guy I've never seen fight over Ray Leonard, no matter how stellar his reputation.
    I guess I pick Greb, but very, very tentatively.
     
    Sting like a bean, Dec 23, 2018
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  7. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Is Mercante Sr. an elite?
     
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  8. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No, it's simple ambivalence resulting from insufficient evidence.
     
    Sting like a bean, Dec 23, 2018
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  9. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a side note admittedly but let me throw it in as an addition, Burt Bienstock said his father watched Greb fight and he believed he was too tough for Robinson who was no slouch in tough battles, I think this would have been the case against Leonard especially over 15.
     
    timmers612, Dec 24, 2018
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  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    That's awesome. Hope Burts doing okay.
     
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  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Think this way -would you favor Mickey Walker against Leonard?
     
    70sFan865, Aug 19, 2019
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  12. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Greb doesn't stop SRL outright like I think he has a better than average chance of doing, he takes a one sided UD.
     
    laxpdx, Aug 23, 2019
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  13. Tippy

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    I really feel like this fight comes down to Grebs size and workrate overcoming the more polished but smaller Leonard.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    How would you even know if Leonard were more polished?
     
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  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Greb could beat Tunney,...
     
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