EliteXC/Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Cung

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Tko4, Mar 29, 2008.


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  1. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Amazing. I can't believe I missed this. lol
     
    sugarngold, Mar 29, 2008
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  2. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This sport is sooo much better when they stand on their feet!
     
    audio101, Mar 29, 2008
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  3. Tko4

    Tko4 Left high kick Full Member

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    So, who can they give to Cung next... winner of Scott Smith and Robbie Lawler? Those are two guys better known for their standup, so I can't imagine they'd pose a huge threat to Cung. EliteXC needs to get a good ground fighter that doesn't wake up thinking he's an elite level kickboxer.
     
    Tko4, Mar 29, 2008
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  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Frank wasnt elite but he did his homework..His standup was sharp., patient..aware..hands up.

    any other guy like Lawler better take it to the ground fast (which I think is not an advantage for him against Cung)..With his wildness..Hed be lucky to last a round, maybe 2
     
    chimba, Mar 29, 2008
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  5. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    That sounds like the perfect way to go. A fight between Le and Lawler would be highly entertaining while it lasts.
     
    sugarngold, Mar 29, 2008
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  6. J_Roth

    J_Roth VRWC Hybrid Beaner Full Member

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    Great fight. Frank losing nothing IMHO. I would love to love to see a rematch where Frank actually uses all his tools. Cung is a better stand up guy and Frank should dominate the ground if he can get him there. I've been watching Cung since his San Shou days and I have to say that his stand up is solid. Le vs Silva would be a war on the feet. Anderson is a bad man though.
     
    J_Roth, Mar 29, 2008
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I wouldn't bet a red cent on Robbie. :yep
     
    IntentionalButt, Mar 29, 2008
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  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    The kid is half Pinoy but that mean **** to me:lol:
     
    chimba, Mar 29, 2008
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  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Great fight... I don't want to hear people pretending like Frank CHOSE to stand with Cung Le, either. Frank clearly tried to take him down, but he couldn't. Cung is a better wrestler than Frank is, but Frank is a better grappler while on the ground. Frank couldn't get him down, and Cung absolutely tooled Frank on their feet. Great fight.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, Mar 29, 2008
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  10. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Lets not forget the fact that Frank was willing to go to the ground...but only when Cung inside his guard.. He tried twice but it was obvious that Cungs base was pretty sturdy..especially how he popped back right up from when he missed that spin kick
     
    chimba, Mar 29, 2008
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  11. elixirvtec

    elixirvtec Active Member Full Member

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    anyone got a link to the fight???
     
    elixirvtec, Mar 29, 2008
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :? The fight ended barely two hours ago. I would think it would be at least tomorrow before clips surface.
     
    IntentionalButt, Mar 29, 2008
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  13. Tko4

    Tko4 Left high kick Full Member

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    I'd hardly call those much more than half-hearted attempts. He never shot for a double leg takedown. Someone looking to take someone down would have shot for them over and over, ala Monson on Sylvia (or even Nog on Sylvia). Shamrock only tried to get it to the ground when he was forced into a clinch and really had no other choice.

    The other "attempt" wasn't even an attempt at all. He got knocked down, mockingly invited Cung into his guard (knowing full he wouldn't, so it was showmanship) and then got up.

    So to say that he couldn't take Cung down is ridiculous. Shamrock never made a concerted effort to get a takedown. Frank fought like an idiot, and deserved to lose.
     
    Tko4, Mar 29, 2008
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  14. Killer_Fish

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    Well I just watch it on Showtime and it's the first I see of Cung Le in MMA. I would like to know how his other fights were like? How he handle being on the ground
     
    Killer_Fish, Mar 29, 2008
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  15. Tko4

    Tko4 Left high kick Full Member

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    He's never really been on the ground for any considerable amount of time. His fights pretty much all went like it did tonight, except he landed even more strikes against far weaker competition. He lands some punches and lots of bizarre kicks for a few rounds, and the accumulation of damage usually leads to some kind of stoppage.
     
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