Ellerbe and Mayweather have credibility in my book

Tell me about it! They'll run with a rumor and then try to make it seem like its factual!

So sad...VERY!:verysad

 

it's funny you think? well floyd and ellerbe are sensitive on ever opinions now that they could be lookig at the message boards of boxing fans. i's not bad actually if what we get in the end is floyd finally manning-up and doing what he was supposed to be doing 3/4 years ago.

 

also ellerbe had said back then that cotto is not a PPV attraction just to discount him as floyd's next opponent. guys dissing cotto like that would hardly be that credible in his opinion.

 

Can you read? Do you realise this thread is about Mayweather not Pac? you that obsessed with him? I bet you even have all his concerts on dvd. Dumbass:hi:

 

You mean in 2005 and 2006 when the fight was there to be made and Shane declined the invitation. We have all seen the video and Schaefer is on the record saying Shane turned down the fight back then. So I guess it Shane who finally "manned up" and did what he supposed to do.:good

 

well, its not floyd on the center of the boxing universe. shane has been fighting tough welter opponents in margo and cotto. so shane already had "manned-up". meanwhile, floyd had realized that almost all top welters are now battered and/or old and it's time to pick up the scraps.

 

So you're dismissing the fact that Shane turned down Floyd in the past???:huh

As they say styles makes fight so just because he fought Margo and cotto still doesnt really mean to much of nothing given that Mayweather is a tough fight for anybody!

 

Like I've said before, Manny should have taken the tests but don't act like it was purely his fault. Floyd knew that standard drug testing (the same tests every single damn fighter takes as according to the rules of the athletic commision) would get the fight signed. He knew this but it wasn't good enough for him. It was good enough for him when facing all his previous opponents but not for Pacquaio. How bad do you think Floyd really wanted it? In fact Pacquiao already said he would go over and above what the commision required since he agreed to Olympic testing. It may be illogical for him to request a cut off point but that's how he is (if I was his advisor I would've advised him to take the tests) Are there any PED's that will show up within 14 or 24 days or whatever it was of taking them, but then not show up after this period? It's true that he could have given in to Floyds demands but it's also true that if Floyd wanted it that badly, why didn't he just allow the same drug testing methods his previous opponents had to go through? Why didn't HE give in? Why does it have to be Pac? **** all this Pac fans vs Floyd fans bull**** (and when it comes to ESB, the dumbest fans are most definetly not Pac fans btw) but I'm just saying, be real. Don't put this all on Manny. If you were rooney or Nallege I wouldn't even bother replying to this but you're a decent poster.

"I did what any father would do"-Mayweather sr

C'mon man, they knew what they were doing.

 

So now it's Floyd picking up the scraps!:rofl If JMM and Shane are scraps then what the hell are Cotto and Clottey? Please tell me who Floyd should have fought in 2006 instead of Judah and Baldomir when the world was saying at the time he would duck them. In 2007 he fought De La Hoya and Hatton who the world begged for him to fight. Since his comeback he has fought JMM, immediately went after PAC who walked away from the fight. Now he's fighting Shane on May 1st. Again I think Floyd has "manned up". The point you have been making is Floyd was avoiding Shane and that wasn't the case at all. It's on the record Shane had avoided until very recently. You can't change the truth. Pac's last five opponent against Floyd, who has fought the better competition? (HINT: It's not Pac!)

Floyd last five fights

Mosley, JMM, Hatton, De La Hoya, Baldomir

Pac last five fights

Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya, Diaz

It's clear that Floyd fought better competition and it's not close.

 

i don't know what is the exact thing that happened back then but all i know is this would be flod's toughest fight at welter since.. baldomir??? for the past 5 years (retirement included). shane fighting the guys at the weight when the division was scorching hot proves that shane has already manned-up. floyd still has to do it.

 

Hey thats why he retired. It's like he gave everyone some chance to get some clout and now he's on the hunt to get back to the top. That was creative. These guys know what they are doing.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNgKX3GgQd0[/ame]

 

How did they know that when Pac initially agreed to the tests. It wasn't until almost three weeks after the contract had been verbally agree to that Pac/Arum balked to the testing which was in the contract. Wonder why?

 

ellerbe dissed out a fight with cotto back when floyd just won over hatton and cotto wn over shane saing cotto is not a PPV attraction then cotto had some 1.25M ppv buys agaisnt pac. also floyd fighting jmm at welter is not excatly a tough opposition. i can accept hatton at 147 even if he looked **** there. floyd was supposed to be fighting welterweights but pac has just recently moved-up but you will see that pac will be fighting his 2nd elite/contender whereas floyd needs a natural disaster to fight one in shane.