Emanuel Steward: "I’ve always been for having a super heavyweight division"

I disagree on the basis that we would probably see the Klitschko brothers fight once in every two years due to a lack of competition. They suffer from it now and have to dig up opponents like Mormeck to be able to fight consistently.

It would only lead to the likes of Haye and Adamek packing on 30-40 more pounds to fight the Klitschkos because they would not get a comparable payday anywhere else. In the case of Arreola, Solis, Peter and the other overweight heavyweights, they have already done this. The Klitschko brothers weigh less, despite being several inches taller.

The only solution would be to create a division based on height, which is ridiculous.

Mostly this is just a case of Steward talking up Tyson Fury and not really giving much thought to what he is saying.

 

I understand what he's saying but please god no not another division. Its the last thing we need. I also think it would have the potential to detract from the legacy of the heavyweight division as casual fans would see it as the main division.

 

12 divisions with approx 10lbs between them ending with S-HW over 225... easy done.

I''ll try & dig out my breakdown as posted on similar threads.

 

Great post. :good

Making a superheavyweight division would serve to weaken the current heavyweight division by removing the Klitschkos, Helenius & Fury. Also, such a superheavyweight division would be extremely lacking in depth of competition. Let's look at the current Ring Mag top 10, & split it into heavyweight & superheavyweight...

Current Heavyweight top 10:

Champ: Wlad
1. Vitali
2. Povetkin
3. Adamek
4. Haye
5. Chambers
6. Helenius
7. Dimitrenko
8. Boytsov
9. Chagaev
10. Arreola


Theoretical Super Heavyweight top 10:

Champ: Wlad
1. Vitali
2. Helenius
3. Dimitrenko
4. Thompson
5. Fury
6. Pulev
7. ???
8. ???
9. ???
10. ???


New Heavyweight top 10:

Champ: Povetkin
1. Adamek
2. Haye
3. Chambers
4. Boytsov
5. Chagaev
6. Arreola
7. Solis
8. Gomez
9. Mormeck
10. Holyfield

 

Totally disagree with Steward on this one.

Would anyone entertain the idea of lifting the CW limit by 10lbs though? Or does it not really serve any purpose?

One thing he did say and of course he's correct is that the alphabet soups are the biggest problem in boxing. I would probably give a portion of my arm to see just one title-holder.

 

In that case you would probably have to create another division for people who weigh around 190-195 pounds, like Steve Cunningham.

 

Either way the addition of another division is not preferable. The CW division is not particularly glamorous as it is, so the introduction of a new division would all but make it redundant.

 

I've posted this a few times now on different threads. 12 divisions, less weight between them than the 8 former divisions. Fighters having an easier time fighting closer, much closer to their natural weight. INCLUDES a S-HW division, I think an all round more honest and competative set of weights - it would also help seriously revive boxing!

S-HW - 225lbs+ cumbersome loafs

HW - 210 - 225 lbs.

CW - 199 - 209.5 lbs.

L-HW - 188 - 198.5 lbs. RJJ could have been a perfect L-HW

S-MW - 177 - 187.5 lbs. Calzaghe stll a S-MW without to much effort

MW - 166 - 176.5 lbs. Hopkins a 'true' MW

WW - 155 - 165.5 lbs. Hatton stll a welter without having to drop 30+ lbs.

J-WW - 144 - 154.5 lbs.

LW - 133 - 143.5 lbs.

FW - 122 - 132.5 lbs.

BW - 111 - 121.5lbs.

FlyW - up to 110lbs.

 

If you want the exact same faces moving to "the glory division"-which will be the heaviest one-to gain even more excess weight, in a stupid attempt to make themselves "stronger" with mostly flab, then yes, we should have a super heavyweight division. If not, and you're sane, then no. No, we do not need a super heavyweight division, then a super duper heavyweight division, then a Titanic Blue Whale Special Uber Super Duper Diabetes Division...****'s sake.

And before the obligatory dip**** retort of "Oh, well, Emanuel Steward knows more about boxing than you ever will!" may I just say, he knows more about training fighters than I do, which means ****all about jack****, thanks. Here, in particular. It's always been a horrifyingly bad idea. It works in the amateurs...because...the amateurs...isn't the pros...get it?

 

No it is a silly idea.


Haye beat Valuev

Chambers beat Dimitrenko (and will beat Thompson)

Povetkin beat Firtha

Chagaev beat Valuev

Adamek beat Grant and McBride

Brewster beat Wlad

Byrd beat Vitali

Holyfield beat Valuev

Perez beat Fields

etc

 

Steward hasn't thought this through, yes the Klits are dominant but the next best man isn't necessarily a SHW. In the last 10years there's been Haye/Toney/Tyson that could compete with the best easily weighing 210-220 (if they're in shape), if Sanders was in shape he'd probably have been 205lbs. The Klits can be beat by 210lb men, if Haye had Toney level skills he could have beat Wlad with the physical package he possesses. The cruser division allows 215lb men to boil down to cruser as it is

 

It works in the amateurs because the heavyweight limit is 200 pounds while the super heavyweight division is 200 lbs and over, which is basically how its in professional boxing except with different names for the divisions.

 

ahh there is only one problem with his statement

most top heavys in the last 10 years have like 6'2 or less or bit bigger

take out kitchko brothers,

and the best chagaev,povetkin, haye, arreora

you seem my point

just cause you got 2 guys at the top that size doesnt mean much

when tyson ruled,

no one said he the other guys are too slow and big to fight him lol

 

absolutely needed otherwise it is unfair