emanuel steward; joe calzaghe is the greatest fighter of all time

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  1. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Truth is he won over all of them. No reason to bother with fantasy outcomes. Emmanuel Steward is just saying like it is, I see little point in trying to question it. :deal
     
  2. GDG

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    Almost as ridiculous a post as the "Calzaghe's the greatest ever" ones.

    Joe was top drawer. Very unconventional and hard to figure out. It's simple, but if you can take a punch and throw 1000 punches per fight, you're quite hard to beat on the current scoring system.

    No blame game but we never really got to see Joe fight a true prime elite which is why there will always be debate. Having said that the version of Hopkins he beat was still very very good.
     
  3. peakbay

    peakbay Active Member Full Member

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    is this all u do with your life, big up Calzaghe because if your not Calzaghe himself, you seriously need to get a life. yes he was a good fighter but the fact u need to remind everyone ALL the time, just proves that he wasn't that great. obsessing about 1 person/fighter that much is just weird and u seriously need to get out more. everyone has their favorites but your just creepy.
     
  4. bailey

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    :lol::patsch Blinded by hate because Calzaghe beat Eubank :patsch.
    Calzaghe beat Hopkins and Reid. You know the facts :patsch.
    As for Starie and Salem they were sloppy performances but lets not try and rewrite history. Calzaghe was not given fits and bar a KD against Salem where he got straight back up, was never losing either of those fights. Calzaghe was a wide winner in both. :lol:
     
  5. Metal Man

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    Calzaghe threw more punches and landed more.Ive scored that fight 5 times and each time i have Calzaghe he winner.
     
  6. bailey

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    I rewatched that awful fight again, just a few days ago and decided to score every round that could be close to Hopkins even if they were rounds I thought Calzaghe won on first reflection.
    Upon this watch I rescored the fight and still saw Calzaghe as a winner, by a point.
    R1 Hopkins 10-8
    R2 Hopkins 10-9
    R3 Hopkins 10-9
    R4 Calzaghe 10-9
    R5 Calzaghe 10-9
    R6 Hopkins 10-9
    R7 Calzaghe 10-9
    R8 Calzaghe 10-9
    R9 Calzaghe 10-9
    R10 Hopkins 10-9
    R11 Calzaghe 10-9
    R12 Calzaghe 10-9

    I struggle to see how anyone could see Hopkins a winner. I thought some of those rounds I scored for Hopkins here to be Calzaghe rounds but gave them to Hopkins here to look at different perspectives
     
  7. Masamune

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    Another calzahge myth - that Robin Reid was robbed of a clear decision

    Go back and watch the fight again - Reid didnt win a round till the 5th , try and score the fight without your " I hate calzahge " glasses on.
     
  8. Masamune

    Masamune Active Member Full Member

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    This -

    the most sense ive read on ESB , ever.
     
  9. tliang1000

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  10. Seckah

    Seckah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a joke lmao
     
  11. EnzoRD

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    I never was a fan of Calzaghe.

    But the truth is that he was 46-0.

    He was WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF, Ring Magazine Super-Middleweight champion.

    He was only one of three boxers in history to retire having been undisputed AND undefeated world champion.

    He did go UP in weight and go to the United States to fight Roy Jones JR and Bernard Hopkins. Something he really didn't have to do.

    The only times Roy Jones left the United States, he lost...... twice.
    The only times Bernard Hopkins left the United States, he struggled against Anibal Miranda. Then drew with Segundo Mercado in Ecaudor.

    Fighting away from home isn't easy. Mike Tyson was invincible before he got knocked out in Japan.

    Probably the greatest thing Ali did was fight George Foreman in Africa.

    American fighters can stay in America and be called an all-time great. Yet Joe constantly gets that thrown in his face for staying in the UK.
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    I think Wlad must have hit Manny back once, when he was pounding on him to press for the KO.
    This doesn't make sense at all, he should get his marbles checked... I think Joe is certainly underrated, but the GOAT? NO F#CKING WAY!

    Maybe this is why Wad is making his own training scedule these days, Steward has lost it. :nut
     
  13. EnzoRD

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  14. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    at the time Lacey was a good fighter, he just wasnt much of a man. Fighters take their first loss in different ways. look at pavlik, taylor and hamed... then look at khan, pacquiao and jones. It ruins some people and makes others :good