Emanuel Steward: "Wladimir is the more talented, Lennox is the more accomplished"

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  1. PFG

    PFG Active Member Full Member

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    If you only talk physical gifts, Wlad is probably the marginally more gifted. But boxing is mental as much as it's physical. And Lewis, like Vitali, was a fighter. Wlad is not.
     
  2. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I would say Wlad has a more quick-powerful arrow-straight right. But Lewis was a 'stronger' puncher.
     
  3. shimmy

    shimmy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Talent does not always translate into accomplishment. Wlad is more "talented" than Lewis, but will never do more in the ring. Big difference in those words. Very big.
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I disagree... as Wlad has already accomplished more than Lewis. Sorry, but wins over a couple of washed up former greats who AREN'T GREAT ANYMORE doesn't make for a great win in my book.
     
  5. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    As a fighter, Lennox fits in the shoes better, I think. But I do think Klitschko skill wise is better than Lennox but doesn't have the balls or the heart Lennox did. Lennox was complete, Klitschko was formed out of shards.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    And your opinion is backed up by the fact that Wladimir Klitsschko has got up from the canvas to win fights.... and Lewis never once even got up off the canvas in good enough condition to continue a fight?:huh That is where you judge "heart"? Wlad has NEVER shown any sign of a lack in heart. That's ridiculous.

    Balls? Lewis was critized just as much as Wlad for being "boring". Wlad also has a higher knockout ratio than Lewis. Nothing that you are saying makes any sense at all.
     
  7. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lewis wasn't afraid to be hit. It's not about "getting off the canvas". Both fighters tried to get off the canvas, that was about how hard they got hit or how **** they trained or whatever the excuse was for both of them. Lennox was built more as a fighter in my eyes. He had to overcome a lot more adversity, that's why I say that.
     
  8. shimmy

    shimmy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlads the man, I don't think anybody is saying he isn't. It would be nice if he developed a couple more aspects of his game because he has the "talent" to do it. Like body work and an uppercut, that's my point with all of this. If he had more in the arsenal in the ring, he would be completely impressive and KO people much easier. He wins easy as it stands, its just not that pleasing to watch.
     
  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    vlads boxing IQ is minimal and his heart is non exsistant. He gets by with a little help from his friends.
     
  10. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Steward says the biggest difference is that Lewis listened and if you told him to be aggressive, he would be. He gave a couple of examples, like the Mercer fight.

    Whereas Wlad is too passive and doesn't want to fight.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    No, he gave the Vitali fight as his example, which really made no sense. When in reality... Wlad CLEARLY responded to Steward about getting more aggressive in both the Brock fight and the 12th round of the Chambers fight.

    Against Haye and Ibragimov... there is only so much you can do against an opponent who refuses to fight. They are the ONLY TWO fighters who have gone the distance with Wlad in his entire title reign.
     
  12. MAG1965

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    I think Lennox had something the Klitschkos does not have , and that is more of a wilingness to engage and throw his great right hand. He was greater than they are. They are fighting smaller guys who are really not that good. Lennox fought in a much better era.
     
  13. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad has has much talent.. But in a round about way Steward has insinuated, that Lennox was more fighter/Warrior... Not his exact words but something along those lines.. And i agree.. Wlad has never proven he can dig deep against top opposition.

    Lennox didnt have the greatest chin but better than Wlads, and more heart.. Wlads being equally or little more talented dont mean nothing.. Boxing might be called the sweet science but when fighters are close in talent,, The hungrier fighter with more heart and warrior mentality makes al big difference... Only opponent that Klit beat when things got tough was a still green Sam Peter... He fell apart vs Brewster and Sanders. Steward said Lewis war with Mercer was his most impressive win.. Steward commented that Lewis proved alot to him that night.
     
  14. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure how you work that one out Widdow, unless you're counting WBO title wins during a time when their rules didn't allow unification with other belts, effectively making it a second tier belt.
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Wlad hasn't needed to dig deep against any of his opposition since he became Champ. He is dominating everyone. However, his first fight against the undefeated Sam Peter was the definition of digging deep to win. He got off the canvas 3 times to win the fight! When did Lewis get off the canvas to win? Oh, that's right... he was never even able to get off the canvas to even continue a fight.