Emile Griffith stops Gaspar Ortega

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Impressive. Nobody else ever stopped Ortega at 147, and guys like Parret, Basilio, Fernandez, Kid G, DeMarco and many more, all tried - in fact Ortega fought the who's who of welterweights straddling two eras. Here's Griffith becoming the only man to shut him down. End of 11 is brutal:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjZ6ue1giqw&feature=sub[/ame]

    Griffith looks horrible to fight here, really using pieces of all styles, a fighter of all types. Sometimes Griffith looks impossible to beat.

    Anyone seen the 7th round?

    Thoughts?
     
  2. anarci

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    :good Good clip Mcgrain , Not sure if the stoppage was right but the clip was kind of ****ed up.

    Gaspar is one of the most durable fighters of his era. O r any era, dont quite understand what happpened here.
     
  3. McGrain

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    I like the stoppage personally. I think he was so hurt at the end of the 11th that he was saved from destruction by the bell only. Coming out for the 12th, he doesn't really find his footing and although he is arcing back punches, Griffith was tagging him with pretty serious punches. Good protection stoppage IMO.

    The clip was uploaded by Sweetfights.
     
  4. My2Sense

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    This was Griffith's peak performance IMO. Ortega really took a surprising beating in this one. This fight is also great to see for anyone who wants to see a reenactment of what a prime Griffith would'vd done to Antonio Margarito. :D
     
  5. My2Sense

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    The stoppage was about five rounds too late actually. Today it probably would've been stopped after Ortega went down the second time in the 7th round. He never really recovered after that and just took a monotonous beating from thereon in.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Have you seen that seventh round? I've never seen it. How bad?
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Anyone seen their first fight?

    Griffith was about 19 at the time and boxed a very disciplined fight and looked brilliant dominating Ortega, then in the later rounds he opened up and even outpunched Ortega
     
  8. My2Sense

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    VERY bad. Ortega was down early in the round, hurt badly, and barely beat the count; then spent the whole round on rubbery legs, practically defenseless, while Griffith pot shotted clean, flush punches to his head; and then near the end of the round he went down again, still completely rubbery legged, and just barely beat the count. The fight very justifiably could've/should've been stopped at any point after the first KD, and if nothing else he probably shouldn't have been allowed out for the next round.

    I'm in the process of uploading that particular round now. I'll post it here when it's finished processing.
     
  9. My2Sense

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    I love that fight. That fight really shows what a "natural" fighter Griffith was, particularly with the way he so effortlessly switches back and forth between styles - and all that just a couple years into his pro career. It was as if he was already in his prime virtually from the moment he turned pro.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good man.
     
  11. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here it is, from Raging B(_)LL's "vault":

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    Watch for yourself and decide whether this should've been allowed to continue.
     
  12. McGrain

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    I stopped counting the sickners at 10. Ortega is made of something else again.

    Griffith looks close to un-boxable on the form he shows in this fight.
     
  13. WhataRock

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    Wow...that ref would have been locked up and given a life sentence for gross negligence in this era.

    Griffith was really quite a hurtful puncher, deceiving numbers.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    Well, that was impressive.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    It really was a great performance, the thing I was so amazed by was his discipline.

    And remember Griffith started boxing at 16 and this was 3/4 years later.