Emile Griffith vs. Chris Eubank

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Seeing Eubank's amateur wins in NY, his footwork going forward is exceptional, believe it or not. And he wasn't a counter-puncher in these fights, at all.
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, that was a classic fluke. It would never happen again if Griff and Carter had rematched 10 more times.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks..I think that Griffith is one of the most underrated SMART fighters of all time..smart and so technically savvy, in his mechanic type of way. Monzon said in an interview that Griffith was "the toughest fighter" he ever met..that he could "make you do things you didn't want to do. It's just that after the Paret tragedy he changed his style and appeared to have lost his passion for his work..becoming a more cerebral type of fighter. Getting the decision was his aim, not any bloodletting of knockouts.
     
  4. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    i was always more impressed by Griffith as one of the ultimate steady workhorse as far as textbook based stylists go.He was a durable physical marvel that aged tremendously and fought a gruelling schedule of rated opponent after rated opponent with ease.

    He became cagey as hell as his career went on and knew how to fight superbly within his limitations rather than being a real round by round thinker and adapter though imo, as shown by his tending to be in very close, often similarly repetitive fights with other cuties and sophisticated boxer-puncher types, though the competitiveness can also be attributed in part to the inherent quality of those fighters and the frequency he was fighting them.
     
  5. Boucher

    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Griffith by clear dec, Eubanks did not like to fight at a fast pace.He wanted a breather in every round, Griffith would not give it to him, and Griffiths chin would make up for Eubanks clear edge in power.Strength would be fairly equal imo.
     
  6. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This takes the prize...two excellent posts. Cheers. Lora.
    I could see both Griffith and Eubank troubling each other stylistically, but with Griffith being more consistant with better activity.
     
  7. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pre Benny Paret Griffith gives Eubank a thorough beating, late KO or clear UD.

    Post Benny Paret Griffith still beats Eubank by UD but not before he absorbs some shots himself.

    Griffith lost his killer instinct when Paret died.
     
  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes just look at 1:40, Griffith goes flying over a banana skin banging his head on the canvas, what a fluke

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgDxA78CJho[/ame]
     
  9. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    :lol:true, it wasn't a "fluke" but it was pretty rare to see him so ****ed up, so easily
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Absolutely, calling that a fluke is outrageous in my view. I see Griffith dip his head to his right repeatedly, even in the short space he was allowed to live, then a huge puncher lands a flush left hook when Griffith does it yet again and we have a fluke on our hands...great result for a great puncher who timed his man to perfection, not a fluke.

    Happening more and more on the board, revisionism of losses (and even wins!) greats have suffered at the hands of lesser fighters. Thankfully we have film of this one.
     
  11. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Excellent to great fighters who were stopped in a single round while at or near their prime...

    Emile Griffith
    Archie Moore
    PwN Kingpetch
    Sumbu Kalambay

    Who else is there?.

    Griffith and Kingpetch's were the most understandable there, in that their opponent was following their usual early rounds modus operandi and throwing the kind of stuff they were known for.Kalambay's was more "flukish", but also arguably the most disastrous big time fight for any established fighter of the modern era.Well, excepting the ones were folk were killed or crippled.
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How often did Griffith blown out like that? Once? Yeah, clearly common for him. ;)
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you're saying Tyson-Spinks was a fluke?
     
  14. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Perfect. Absolutely splendid.
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In a way, yes - for Spinks. Question, outside of Tyson, do you think anyone else would induce the same fear into Spinks and do the same to him?