Emmanual Dapridan Pacquiao: The Case For Being the True Pound 4 Pound King

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  1. Constable

    Constable Boxing Junkie banned

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    wtf?

    so everyone who supports pac is boxing_master according to you?
     
  2. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    If he was American, he'd have been PFP king for the last decade.
     
  3. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol just the people who sound as dumb as you. Don't act like no one knows pactroll.
     
  4. Constable

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    i thought you said i was banned?
     
  5. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both are atg and future hof rightfully so. I personally prefer PACs resume over Floyd's but I can understand why some prefer Floyd over PACs. Anyone who says either or is not worthy of atg/hof and top p4p are just trolls.
     
  6. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or just having conversations with your self. Like you have done before.
     
  7. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    maidana is not cherrypicked but the handicapping made it worst- not fair level playing field. just the same undue advantage from a supposed p4p king tbe - like cheating in plain view.
     
  8. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    anyone who has Pacquiao P4P #1 DKSAB
     
  9. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2nd fight was a cherry pick. There was no need whatsoever for a rematch.
     
  10. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    Well when you get caught trying to cheat and use illegal gloves you void your right to pick your gloves

    I bet i could do damage hitting you with my winnings (though i bet alot of its because you have never stepped between the ropes before)
     
  11. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    When you say fight his fight you obviously need to include continous fouling and unpunished blatent fouls like muay thai knees. So did the ref help maidana in the first fight by letting him do that?
     
  12. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Pac is clearly the number 2 p4p fighter in the world, which is why the number 1 fighter Floyd needs to fight the number 2 fighter Pac.

    Even though Marquez was juiced to the gills(you can't argue against it, the man is juicing) he still beat Pacquaio twice and officially beat him once with a brutal KO.
     
  13. jim jim

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    someone explain why floyd is pound for pound number 1 to me? it doesnt matter either way until they fight anyways its actually worthless they both dont even know if there number 1 in their own division nevermind other divisions and all this fantasy fight stff is pretty much opinion so I dont get why the floyd fans are arguing so hard
     
  14. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Statistical overview...

    2007-Present:

    Record:
    10(2)-0 110rd Mayweather
    14(5)-2(1) 165rd Pacquiao
    31(25)-0 153rd Gonzalez
    15(10)-0 95rd Rigondeaux
    16(12)-0 121rd Wlad
    17(10)-0 144rd Ward
    14(3)-1-1 171rd Bradley
    13(8 )-2 132rd Froch
    10(7)-4 144rd JMM
    26(23)-0-1 84rd Kovalev
    31(22)-2 184rd Estrada

    Weight Classes:
    147/154 Mayweather
    130/135/140/147/154 Pacquiao
    105/108/122 Gonzalez
    140/147 Bradley
    130/135/147 JMM
    108/112 Estrada

    P4P Fighters Fought:
    5 Mayweather (#8 Hatton, #3 JMM, #3 Mosley, #10 Guerrero, #9 Alvarez)
    8 Pacquiao (#6 Barrera, #2 JMM, #10 Hatton, #7 Cotto, #4 JMM, #8 Bradley, #5 JMM, #3 Bradley)

    Aggregate Scorecards (Rounds Won/Lost):
    245-70 Mayweather (77.778% rounds won)
    378-99 Pacquiao (79.245% rounds won)

    Shutout Scorecards:
    1 Mayweather (JMM)
    14 Pacquiao (Algieri, Rios, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey, Hatton, ODLH, Diaz)
    23+ Klitschko (15 missing cards)

    Losing Scorecards:
    1 Mayweather (ODLH)
    3 Pacquiao (Bradley I, JMM II)

    Drawn Scorecards:
    2 Mayweather (Alvarez, Maidana I)
    1 Pacquiao (JMM III)

    Knockdowns Given/Taken:
    4-0 Mayweather (Ortiz, JMM, Hatton x2)
    17-2 Pacquiao (Algieri x6, JMM 2-2, Mosley, Cotto x2, Hatton x3, Diaz, Solis x2)

    Common Opponents:
    Hatton: Pacquiao steamrolled him in 2 while he gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights enroute to being outclassed and stopped in 10.
    Shot Cotto: Manny destroyed him brutally while he gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights.
    Shot ODLH: Pacquiao made him quit while he gave Mayweather one of his toughest fights and arguably beat him.
    Shot Mosley: Pacquiao dropped him, shut him out, and had him scared the whole fight (according to Mosley) while Mosley rocked Mayweather enroute to being outpointed.
    JMM: Mayweather dominated the fatboy p!ssdrinking version who came up 2 weightclasses, but he dominated him very impressively. Pacquiao fought 42 rounds against him and went 2-1(1)-1, and all their fights besides the KTFO6 could have gone either way. Pacquiao had a 5-2 advantage in knockdowns and over 12 scorecards managed 10 points more than JMM.
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    Conclusions:

    I think Mayweather is ranked higher because of inertia. Nobody feels like moving him if he doesn't lose, despite the fact that Manny has done more to take the spot than Floyd has done to keep it.

    The only justification is JMM. Mayweather schooled him and Manny never really elevated himself above him and got KTFO. The other side of that is the JMM Mayweather beat was a fatass moving up 2 divisions, while the JMM Manny lost to was clearly on the juice.
     
  15. shinkuhadoken

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    By that account, i assume you have stepped in the ring. Care to prove that to us. Number of post is not a valid proof.