Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao Vs. Floyd Joy Sinclair: My Assessment Of The Match

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  1. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The comparison between Maidana and Rios was awful. Utterly egregious.

    Maidana, in addition to being larger, a better jabber, and a harder hitter than Rios, came into his fights with Mayweather off his very best victory, a resounding 12 round decision over Broner. Rios. in contrast, was coming off a clear decision loss to "Mile High Meth Head" Mike Alvarado. Maidana utilized a style and possessed attributes that traditionally have caused Floyd some problems (See Chavez, Castillo). Rios's style is one that Pac eats for breakfast.(See David Diaz)

    Pointless, and invalid comparison as a result.
     
  2. Reginald II

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    Im a huge Pacquiao fan and those statements are just too biased for Manny. Style make fights. If it doesnt make sense to compare both to their JMM fights, then why compare other fights too. Manny looks good against brawlers, Floyd looks good against boxers/counterpunchers. Simply put, Manny's weakness are mobile counterpunchers and Floyd's weakness are pressure fighters.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I wouldn't call what I said about Brandon a ringing endorsement of his skills or do I consider it a huge win for Pac. Maidana is a little better but not that much.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I wouldn't say Manny's weakness is mobile counter punchers his weakness is Marquez who's a stationary counter puncher, Bradley and Algieri are both very mobile and while not necessarily known for it, they are both decent counter punchers and they didn't trouble him in the least.
     
  5. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I agree Floyd is going to get knocked out or lose a wide decision, unless we get a ref that protects Floyd
     
  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Nobody is getting KTFO out in this match:bart
    :smoke
     
  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I agree
    You can swing this to either fighter but bottom line no KO but maybe a KD from both:think
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  8. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    If an old Shane Mosley can catch him off guard and hurt him then Pac has a chance be it a minor one i guess.


    Pac's combinations after a big shot landing would be hard for Floyd to deal with even with his gifted defence.


    I feel this fight will have poor refereeing. Something will happen with a fighter being deducted points over something controversial.



    I favor Pacquiao due to being more of a combination puncher and i feel the speed in the combos will win him the fight.


    I don't think Mayweather generally needs to be that mobile in this fight as he could break Pac's rhythm pot shotting between a combination even on the ropes. He does have to move, though.
     
  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Fight is a bit late. In their primes they could have fought a trilogy and proven something. Now it's just a paypacket.
     
  10. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    I agree. If Manny is to win, it will have to be on points
     
  11. DoubleM

    DoubleM Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    posting so I can bump this after the fight when Mayweather dominates. TY.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh don't worry I'll bump it so I can rubbed it under your nose when Manny does exactly what Mayweather is afraid he'll do.
     
  13. sparta

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    I dont think its too far fetched that a fighter as adaptable and inteligent as floyd can umulate marquezes style to a degree and use his blueprint. Add to the equation floyds superior speed, timing & athletisism, which will more than make up for a power shortage. If marquez made paq think twice with his power, timing and accurate counters, u can bet your ass he will think twice & hesitate before charging in at floyd, not due to floyds power, but due to his speed timing and accuracy which is superior to a 40 yo marquez. This will put a spanner in paquais game plan and he will struggle for the same reasons he struggled v marquez, but worse. Floyd is a genius, his accuracy and timing is all that is needed to slowly break mannys will via accumulation and severe frustration as a result. Floyd dont need power to win this fight, timing, accuracy and speed kills.

    Floyd by decision.
     
  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't agree with everything in the OP but I appreciate ****ysis and a well thought out argument

    I have always picked Floyd to win and for the most part have seen this fight as one sided. However as the two have aged and slowed a little (neither is past it) I see Manny as being more competitive in this match up

    I agree with most of the ****ysis except for I didn't find Manny impressive in either Bradley fight giving up 2 or so minutes a round and then giving away or at least coasting the last 3-4 in a fight that was closer than HBO wanted people to think. Bradley was on even keel in the rematch but got hurt and started looking to go to the ropes and get lucky on a bomb cause he couldn't move as much

    Cotto the last time I watched the Floyd fight only won 2 rounds maybe just 1, he didn't land nearly as much as I recalled live. He was aggressive but Floyd seemed so much more effective

    Oscar on the other hand was a fight I saw the closest I ever have on last viewing. Usually I had it 9-3 or 8-4 but there were stretches in the middle rounds where Floyd literally was one shot at a time to Oscars flurries and one thing that gets little notice was Oscars ability to pick off Floyds one at a time punching with a high guard and good vision. I think even Manny Steward complained about Floyd having no out put and giving away rounds. I had it 115-113 on last view but I don't think I could ever argue any more rounds Oscars way

    Maidana 1 was the first fight since Castillo that went to the cards and I legitimately did not know who was going to get the decision it appeared that Maidana won 4 or 5 of the first 5 and when Floyd was cut in round 4 and sitting on the ropes getting bombarded and looking like he couldn't see I thought he was gonna lose. Even rounds like 6, 8, 10 which moost feel Floyd won the punch stat was close and Maidana was able to be more competitive than he should have been in the middle of the ring. On 2 scorings I had it 7-5 and 6-6

    Maidana 2 Floyd rarely engaged and I thought got a lot of help from the ref, people like to complain about Cortez in the Hatton fight (I always found the criticism unfounded as Hatton was losing inside) but we saw Maidana have his way with Floyd inside and then not be allowed the opportunity to fight his fight. Floyd was unimpressive lacking a real offense and I thought the close card was more accurate than the wide one

    Manny did destroy Cotto and Oscar and Hatton much easier and outside the rocking in round 2 they did about the same vs Mosely....I don't think any of that matters though

    As far as JMM, I don't like to rely on ABC theory but Manny has a history of getting clocked by the straight right and he is up against the best in the biz

    Outside=Floyd
    Inside=Floyd
    Defense=Floyd
    Body punching=Floyd

    I mean Manny has similar speed, better power, the possibility of having an awkward style that takes Mayweather an extended period to figure out and high work rate but I just don't see him beating Floyd
     
  15. ecdrm15

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    :deal