End of Pacquiao hype train is about to get derailed !!

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    He's a top 15 all-time great for beating Cotto? ... I never knew that Cotto was a concensus ATG pick ...

    The biggest name he beat was DLH and anyone with a brain could see that DLH wasn't himself after he fought FLoyd ... he got his orbital bone broke from Steve Forbes ... him losing was evident to anyone he stepped in the ring against. Any live - active fighter with a pulse. Floyd had him thinking too much and he couldn't handle the adjustments, the reflexes and the constant thought of what his opponent was going to do. Floyd had turned him and many other fighters into fighters they weren't accustomed to being.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can deny all day long that PAC is not great. Just look at these threads.:rofl It just doesn't make any sense nor does it make it true. PAC is a true great and I agree with you. Leaning towards Floyd, but it won't be easy for Money and it will be a fight where he can just as easily loose this one.
     
  3. scirasco

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    well and as far the comment everybody is black routing for mayweather well thats unfortunatelty very true too because when rashad evans fought machida black people would follow rashad because he is black disregarding the skills machida had ,i mean it's ok too root for ur own people why the **** u must have chip on the shoulder and call names and **** ,be black what the **** is the problem!!!!!
     
  4. bald_head_slick

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    I think Mayweather fights "enough to win". The harder Manny presses, the more likely Manny is to get KTFO.

    Manny got hit WAY too much by Cotto who isn't known as a precision puncher. I think Manny will be eating straights all day by about the 8th round. Jab, back up, jab, jab, back up, Manny comes forward, straight, pivot/duck, back out.
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

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    I never taken anything away from Pac, each fight that Pac has won of recent not has been always co-signed by me. If he wins, he wins, there's no excuse ... its a prize fight ... but based on the logic of the sweet science ... there's no conceivable way that Pac can win ... oh except for the great punchers chance and even that is minimized to nothing when you're in there with a fighter the talent of Floyd Mayweather.
     
  6. Charlie Z

    Charlie Z Don't hurt me Oleg Full Member

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    cotto would crush delahoya wtf is wrong with You :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl cotto beat mosley and clottey.... who da **** has mayweather beat? in the 147 pound division an old beat Up arturo gatti? carlos baldomir :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl he had trouble with zab judah

    pacquios gonna Pop mayweathers cherry boy when they fight believe it, hatton delahoya cotto all the smashed and so will mayweather
     
  7. Charlie Z

    Charlie Z Don't hurt me Oleg Full Member

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    your a biased floyd mayweather fan every nuetral boxing fan knows pacquio is better then mayweather in these 2 departments

    1.speed
    2.power

    and also dont forget pacs Not zab judah he doesnt gas out after 6 rounds, zab was beating floyd mayweather to the punch in nearly each and every ****ing round and then gassed which is why mayweather won, pac actually gets stronger and pressures more and more as the fight goes on... Pacquio will **** mayweather up bad
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    It's funny how the same thing was said about Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Gatti, Baldomir, Judah, Marquez, DLH, and now Pacquiao.

    Oh body punches will get to FLoyd ... Nope
    Oh fighting a bigger fighter will give him trouble ... nope
    Oh fighting someone as quick as he is will definitely give him trouble ... nope
    What about a fighter who puts on a lot of pressure ... nope
    What about someone who's very accomplished ... nope
    What about a fighter who's explosive ... nope
    What about the ring rust after 2 yrs outside of the ring ... nope

    IT remains to be seen !!
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah......Floyd isn't the kind of fighter who has that in him. Cotto and Hatton...they are seek and destroy kinds of fighters. They go after the wounded and set out to take them out. Floyd isn't willing to take risks even if he does have someone hurt. Just look at JMM! Sure he shut him down, but he should have put him out! He didn't. His DNA isn't like PAC's or Cotto's where they are great finishers. Floyd rather out point and win a fight without getting hurt.....which is fine...but this is the hurt business and PAC will bring the hurt...even if he looses.
     
  10. Danny_Rand

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    Cotto crush the 160lb De La Hoya that brutally KO'd Mayorga, that Floyd faced? Naw son. Cotto beat Mosley, 7-5. Mosley is nowhere near Peak. Floyd would beat Mosley by atleast 9 rounds. Cotto didnt beat Clottey, Clottey won the fight, Cotto got a gift

    As for whos Floyd beaten at Welter. Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton and DLH at 154. About the same as winning a close decision over an old Mosley.

    And you're comparing a drained DLH, a punchy Hatton and mediocre Cotto to Floyd? Wow? You a boxer?
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    Fitz, PAc's fans are scared to death this fight could be made. Arum stayed out of the PW-Pavlik talks, but is the main man when it comes to making Pac-Floyd lol... Floyd is letting Shaefer do his talking while Pac's promoter is dealing with Shaefer lol...
     
  12. yyyy1313

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    Actually DLH, MARQUEZ AND JUDAH were all opponents Mayweather was suppose to beat. Only person I remembered saying Marquez was going to win was me! He unfortunately wasn't able to keep up with the weight jumping as well as Pacquaio :'(.
     
  13. Danny_Rand

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    PAcquiao has a KO percentage of 69%. Mayweather KO percentage of 63%
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Nah Nall.....they are eating it. They are just too salty to admit it. Well.....many are. Some are giving the respect that is due to PAC. You aren't yet, but you will. You can only deny greatness for so long when you keep getting it wrong.

    There were plenty of fans who got those fights wrong. Many so called experts as well. Being "sane" has nothing to do with making good or bad predictions...BUT....Being sane or insane could be the reason for not accepting the truth....think about it.:D
     
  15. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What? Dude nobody knew who the hell Machida was. Maybe his not speaking English further shrunk the Black fan base? Yes race may be a part, but don't just dump it all on that.

    So are you saying that the Filipino fight fan is choosing Mayweater? Are you also saying that they aren't calling names? Please.

    Wake up and come to the real world.