End of the Super Heavweight Era?

Once the klitscho's retire....the division won't be as big....there presence alone, made a lot of these guys blow-up in weight....

 

There are some huge young heavyweights coming up the ranks from Russia, Ukraine and Germany, not to mention the very young Tyson Fury and Price from England.

 

Your point is off base. There are always smaller, fast fighters who can become contenders. Beating Valuev isnt a great achievment, especially after the smallish chagaev and ruiz have done so. Holyfield outboxed him and was robbed. Larry Donald was robbed against valuev.

Really, Haye beat a guy who has been outboxed by a lot of small powerless heavyweights and you now see it changing? You sir, are wrong on all counts.

 

Just some stats to add to this debate...

The average height of the Ring top 10 (or 11, if there was a champion) have been as follows since 2000:

2000: 189.2cm
2001: 188.5cm
2002: 189.8cm
2003: 187.5cm
2004: 190.1cm
2005: 190.5cm
2006: 191.6cm
2007: 193.5cm
2008: 194.7cm
2009: 194.4cm

I used year-end and current 2009. Interestingly (perhaps!) the average in 1990, 1980 and 1970 were as follows:

1990: 189.8cm
1980: 189cm
1970: 185.6cm

However, if we use the original poster's guideline of Haye (191cm) as being a small heavyweight then the numbers of 'small' heavyweights (191cm or less) in each year were as follows:

2000: 7 (out of 10)
2001: 8 (out of 11)
2002: 7 (out of 11)
2003: 7 (out of 11)
2004: 7 (out of 11)
2005: 8 (out of 10)
2006: 6 (out of 10)
2007: 5 (out of 10)
2008: 5 (out of 10)
2009: 5 (out of 10)

For the record:

1990: 5 (out of 10)
1980: 9 (out of 11)
1970: 9 (out of 11)

 

They're everywhere. America's got Deontay Wilder. England's got David Price. The future looks optimistic.

 

A reminder, there only were two really good 6'4+ Heavyweights, Vitali and Wladimir.

The last one non- Klitschko was Lewis.
All this "Super" Heavyweight thing is getting a tad bit bizarre, look at the people we've got outside of the two legitimate champions. Haye, Chagaev, Povetkin, Boytsov, Chambers, Adamek. All small heavyweights by our made up standards, and obviously two overweight fat pigs in Odlanier Solis and Chris Arreola which should be small heavyweights but aren't.

Anyways, I do believe Povetkin and Boytsov are legitimate threats to the Klitschkos. Some may like Haye but I think he's just reeling in some money, he'll get splattered when faced with the task of a Klitschko.

 

There should be a seperate weight division above 250, called the Super-Heavies.

The heavyweights are very boring to watch these days because they get bigger and bigger, and slower and slower.

 

i noticed this myself with heavys coming up like povetkin , chambers , haye , adamek , banks , solis and mike perez it could be a much better heavy scene in about 2 years

 

A lot of these "small" guys are fit and ready to go, but Solis and Arreola?:rofl

Them some fat ****s that need to go on a diet and come back when they're in their 230ish.

 

theres no way anyone can claim this is the end of the super heavyweight era when the two most dominant figures in the division are super heavyweights, and there are guys like fury, ustinov, deontay wilder and so on coming up and garnering the most excitement. when the smaller up and coming heavyweights are officially better prospects and receive greater praise, that's when you can lay claim to this era being over, but until then, you're doing nothing but getting ahead of yourself.

 

yeah arreola is a disgrace to himself

i dont think solis is as fat but he could shed a few pounds alright , if he did he could become a serious contender

anyway i think the other cuban mike perez is a much better prospect tbh

 

wait, the same solis that destroyed the monte barrett that gave ustinov problems?:-(

and the same arreola who has given dr. iron fist himself his toughest fight since lewis?

why do they need to go on diets exactly, besides the fact that they don't look like the prototypical heavyweight?

 

The day a guy of Arreolas or Solis physique takes a legitimate title is the day I stop watching heavyweight boxing. I am in better shape physically than Solis for **** sakes.

 

the day THESE TWO SPECIFIC FIGHTERS YOU MENTIONED, and not "a guy of arreolas or solis physique", stop making noise in the division and outboxing or beating down everybody but the two most dominant fighters in the division is the day I will feel it necessary to say they need to lose weight. until then, I am sticking to the idea that anyone making a fuss over their weight is too into the aesthetic pleasure of looking at another man's body and not the sweet violence being conducted in the ring.