ending the margarito/mosley cheat s** right now

1. Mistakes like "accidentally loading gloves" don't happen on the World Championship level. By that point there is a level of professionalism and know-how that is to be expected. "Accidentally" loading gloves just doesn't happen, and doesn't fly as an excuse.

2. No, I don't care how much or little Margarito loaded his gloves. The fact is that he did, and that is the main point. The intention is the same whether it is a horseshoe or a plastered wrap. In both cases he is intending to maim his opponent illegally, and because the intent is the same, so should the punishment be.

3. Sure, I don't really care how Mosley is labelled. My main concerned right now, since the topic is fresh, is urging for a lifetime ban for someone who set out possibly with intent to kill Mosley, though unfortunately I can't prove exactly what his intent was from the outset. I can only speculate as to how far Antonio "Manos De Plaster" Margarito intended to go.

 

Margarito would have been far more dangerous if he had actual ability whereby he could do more damage than he did. Instead, the slow plodder had to use his chin to wear his opponent down for a few rounds before catching up to them with his loaded gloves.

 

In boxing circles @ the present, steroids is considered cheating, but loading gloves (unloading in Resto's case) is viewed as the ultimate dishonor in the sport. That's the biggest difference. I'm going to wait at least till the March results come in before I make my conclusion.

 

Was there plaster in the wraps? Surely not blocks, but it may have been sprinkled inside the pad. This part of the case will be disclosed in March.

 

IMO it's just a matter of time before somone is maimed or dies in the ring @ the hands of a steroid user. Until that happens, steroids will be considered less offensive than loading gloves. But if or when it happens steroids will become a premeditated act of dishonor that rivals glove loading.

 

We now repeating ourselves, Marnoff.

You can't prove exactly what his intent was from the object, and despite a 1 year ban being put in place, neither can the commission.

That is all. Mid-March.

 

This is a very, very silly debate. Any rational person knows what tony did was by far more dangerous then what SSM did.

A few points on the debate;

1) It does not matter what is inside the gloves, it matters what effect it has on Tony's hands. If they are hard and feels like bricks when hit. Does it matter if it is plaster or knuckle pad that is treated in a way to mock plaster, or removing padding from the gloves. Does it matter if you are hit by a wood or an aluminum bat?

2) The probability of doing serious brain damage or even death is greater with a hard substance in your gloves then if you are on steroids. If you disagree with this point let’s get in the ring you can go on ‘roids and I will harden my gloves. I am sure after 3-4 rounds you will see my point.

3) Nobody, not Tony or his corner, knew there was a problem with what they were doing. Either they are f'ing idiots or lying. In both cases they should be banned from the sport. If they did not know there was a problem with hardening the gloves. That leads one to believe they did this in the past because it would have been a part of their normal preparation for fights. If they did know what they were doing they were masters of deception and would have hardened the past. Given the level of experience of Tony and his corner the most logical explanation is the latter of the two.

Ultimately, Tony's actions should be considered attempted assault and battery with a weapon. For all you guys with a man crush on Tony you should be happy that he is only suspended for a year and not behind bars.

 

1. I realize that.

2. I said that. One year will do for now. Hopefully a lifetime ban comes in once they prove he was loading his gloves.

3. Can't wait. Can only hope they don't doctor the wraps and reveal the truth.

 

I don't see anybody disputing which of the two offenses was more dangerous. What I am saying however is, how can we make an accurate comparison when we don't even know what was in the hand-wrapping. It was not Plasters of Paris - it wasn't plaster, period! It is said to be 1x4 in size, and the commission did not even spot any deficiency before a guy called Nazim Richardson got involved. In any event, Mosley was guilty of using a performance enhancing drug, which is equally as illegal as what Margarito has been charged for.

 

The problem we have is, the wraps may have already been "doctored" as you respectfully put it. I prefer the word tainted, and this may or may not have happened when the commission wrongly allowed more than 15 people to touch the "illegal substance" during the interim.

The only reason we have reasonable doubt as well as overreactions in the first place is due to the improper way the CSAC dealt with the issue from the beginning. Likewise, HBO should take some of the responsibility for employing a guy like Lampley who could't refrain from an emotional outburst whilst live on-air.

Hopefully the commission will be able to redeem themselves by not only confirming what the "illegal substance" was but giving Margarito and Capetillo a fair hearing.

 

both of you are wrong cause he took his own life :deal

 

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Freddy to damage someones eye permanantly is pretty damn bad!