England and Poland - Mediation

http://medgadget.com/2008/09/drawing_the_genetic_map_of_europe.html

A team of scientists from Cornell, UCLA, University of Chicago, and the University of Lausanne, in Switzerland,

Good enough for you?

 

Did you read the study?

It goes on to say the study was made on people who have 4 grandparents from the same country. Thats what they meant by "substantially pure lineage"

Sounds like you just skimmed it and looked for something to criticize :bart

 

Btw I find it funny how some Brits say really racist things about Poles, and when a Pole just points out that British top fighters are usually not ethnically English He gets labeled as a "racist"

atsch

 

But that isn't pure lineage beacuse if you go back a step further you will find there grand parents are from somewhere else, where you live doesn't decide your facial structure.

People shouldn't be saying racist things, I personally don't see what your saying as racist but I can see why someone would, what gives you the right to say a guy who was born here, lived here, educated here, learned all his skills here, wants to be declared british that he is not british.

 

Comedy gold.

 

More comedy gold.

It's obvious that you're British... don't hide your smugness/pompousness. It's what you guys are good at.

 

Wow. atsch

You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. Dr. Mo has credentials and expertise in the noble art of eventology. The bulk of his writings are groundbreaking. Dr Mo is a visionary. And not just a scholar, he's also a gent.

 

1. I was quoting scientific studies, like the poster asked me too. If you disagree with how they are being done, go argue with the professors about genetics. I am not the expert on the subject that you claim to be. Is it not refreshing that someone on this board actually posts credible sources when asked?

2. I dislike racists, however I do not feel it is my place to tell people how to think or speak. Imo people who say racist things do not bother me so much as those who actually put their racism into practice by discriminating or oppressing.

Listen, you can be culturally as "British" as it gets. But you're ethnicity will still not be British and that is perfectly ****ing fine. Are you Brits so ****ing vain, that you think Lennox would be insulted if I said you are ethnically Jamaican not English? Im pretty sure he would say somthing along the lines of "Yes this is true, I am proud of my Jamaican heritage, now **** off I am busy being a boxing legend".

I feel that people who are offended by my statements are just closet racists. Because they perceive not being "ethnically english" as an insult, when its not . Its just an observation. I believe all ethnicity have the same capabilities and should be treated the same, THAT is why i don't consider it an insult to not be "ethnically english"

For example, many women are "Birth Mothers" and are inseminated with an egg and sperm. They carry in their uterus and give birth to someone else's genetic baby for a payment. When the baby is born who are its real parents?

Benjamin Disraeli according to you, was not a Jew... He was British?

Disraeli also stated, in a now oft-quoted reply, "Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the Right Honourable Gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the Temple of Solomon."[86][87]

 

For Instance

Nicolas Copernicus was A Polish Astronomer. However he was ethnically German

He was born in Poland, studied at Polish universities, and wrote/spoke in Polish. However, he was ethnically German. What does that say about him?

Would I offended if someone says, Copernicus was not really Polish as he was a German. No I would not, because that person is basing their argument on a pretty solid fact.

Political Correctness has really gone out of control on you're Island.

 

1. I never claimed to be an expert, but the problem with heritage is that Poland do not have their own, if every country in the world was related, we are all inbred.

2. Everyone dislikes racists, you shouldn't say things what could be viewed as racists if you dislike them.

3. I get your point now, but the thread which has caused any of our arguments was a thread about british boxers and polish boxers, Britain is not so much of an ethnic country more of a cultural one, and I explained why people coming in to the country start at the bottom therefore create better sports players.

4. You can be an english Jew, I know a couple at work. Birth mother point taken but it's not really related, completely different story, and I really don't agree with that, whereas I don't disagree with immigration to the United Kingdom,

 

1. You are entitled to you're opinion, However Genetic studies have proven otherwise. I'll go with the opinion of a team of respected Genetic scientists.

2. This is untrue. Alot of people support Racism. I also have not said a single racist thing
. If someone is such a sensitive brainwashed ***** or closet-racist that they view it as racism, its not my problem.

3. You have given a possible explanation and It was well thought out.

4. I do think the Birth Mother analogy is related. As in being born somewhere does not determine you're origin. You're genetics do. Hence in America many state they are American of "insert ethnicity" descent. Majority of Americans are of English or German descent and say it proudly

If you can be an English-Jew, Why can't Lennox be an English-Jamaican, Kahn an English-****stani, Chisora a English-Nigerian?

Finally I'll give you a question? Do you consider a Post-Op transgender a woman? Looks nothing like a man and is legally a woman. In fact, this transgender looks like a very attractive supermodel... Would you engage in relations?

Or would you not because you consider this transgender to be a man?

 

I'd just like to say.. Let the best win this noble debate. Good luck to both sides :good

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