English v Junior

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by OpinionOfACasual, Apr 16, 2018.


Chris Eubank SR v Chris Eubank JR

  1. English

    29 vote(s)
    96.7%

  2. Junior

    1 vote(s)
    3.3%
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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    CST80, Apr 17, 2018
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jnr really could've been something with the right foundations layed at the start. He has traits that could've seen him go far with the right tuition
     
    Birmingham, Apr 17, 2018
    Birmingham, Apr 17, 2018
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  3. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think it would still sell. Jnr is a name, and he was throwing at the end against Groves all though soundly outpointed, so all is not lost. I think he wrecks this version of Degale while probably behind on points
     
    Birmingham, Apr 17, 2018
    Birmingham, Apr 17, 2018
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  4. kirk

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    I think saying there is a softness to Jr is a bit... off.

    Jrs lack of success is due to many things, softness not being one of them imo.

    Where are you seeing soft in him? Whats an example where hes shown it?
     
    kirk, Apr 17, 2018
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  5. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Senior the better fighter. The difference between them looks mainly down to two things....when eubank was learning his craft sparring....eubank junior was punching a boxing machine that a) doesn't move and b) doesn't hit back.

    Senior really did learn his craft. He had a much better boxing brain than junior.

    The second point is the son can't throw the straight right. It basically finishes him at the top level, makes him completely limited and probably is the reason he trains the way he does. The straight right is massive in boxing. It totally limits him as a fighter without it. Its actually testament to him he got as far in the game considering that and the late start.

    The dad was a proper fighter tho. The son was never gonna live up to that bearing in mind the late start. The nice upbringing....and the lack of being able to throw the straight right due to injury. Overall tho putting the Instagram/promotion rubbish to one side the sons proved himself as a solid fighter. He made a mistake moving up a weight they didn't quite bank on it making as much of a difference as it did. They got carried away with their own hype. Few guys are moving up a weight fighting a champion and winning it without being a bit special. He still could get success down at middleweight. Need to get that right hand sorted tho. You can't fight properly without a straight right hand.
     
    bbjc, Apr 17, 2018
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  6. james5000

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    From opening bell he appeared to be scared of getting hit IMO,

    Not willing to trade, not willing to put it all on the line.

    I expected different, I still don't think Groves could keep him on the ground but he didn't even need to.
     
    james5000, Apr 17, 2018
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  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Farmboxer, Apr 17, 2018
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  8. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Claiming JNR is 'soft' is a stupid claim.

    After losing the first 6, then 7, then 8 etc against Groves, he could've just tried to survive and not press.

    Instead, he amateurishly charged forward, throwing windmills and taking some huge flush shots.
     
    OpinionOfACasual, Apr 17, 2018
    OpinionOfACasual, Apr 17, 2018
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  9. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100% said he would destroy BJS also!!
     
    Bensub, Apr 18, 2018
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  10. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has a major elbow issue on his right arm, and doesn't close the distance correctly at all.
     
    Bulldog24, Apr 18, 2018
    Bulldog24, Apr 18, 2018
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