Enough of this Vitali atg NONSENSE

Being an all-time great isn't about 'who beats who'. If that is the case, then someone like Jack Johnson wouldn't deserve to be ranked anywhere noticeable because he fought in an era alien to what we say today. His style is alien too and would be ineffective today. Does he deserve to be ranked ahead of Vitali? Of course.

 

atsch
What a sad delusional Hater!!!

Wimps will be wimps!! :yep

 

Stupid post of the day. I'm sure before the end of day you'll post others just as dumb. :rofl:rofl:rofl

Johnson's style was THE MOST effective of his day. If he were fighting today, he'd simply adjust his style to today's standards.

LOL, what a dunce you are Jack London !!! :yep

 

the problem with vitali is simple: wladimir.

vitali was the heir apparent to lewis's throne, everyone expected him to dominate. he had a great chance to unify the belts against byrd or ruiz, but he took a money fight with williams, got injured and left for 4 years.

in the mean time wlad has dominated, cleaned up and established his greatness with a 5 year reign at the helm of the division.

vitali, for all his potential will be known as a nearly man. 2nd best to Lewis, 2nd best to wlad. Because of his impressive longevity and comeback he's probably pushed himself to about the bowe/norton level.

ATG, I'm not so sure, I think that should be reserved for like the top 15 HW's.

 

Fair qustion.

Let's start:

Lewis
Ali
Foreman
Tyson
Liston
Frazier
Bowe
Holyfield (prime)
Louis (prime)
Baer
Dempsey
J Johnson

8 more needed folks, join in.

 

It is in my opinion. That's how I always look at it, head to head fights.

 

You're so far beneath me, the top of my toe would appear as the Grand Canyon to you, Wimp. :smoke

Do us all a favor and post the link to all that made up crap you posted, Suzy Q. :yep

 

I can easily name 20 fighters greater than vitali:

louis
ali
rocky
johnson
holmes
foreman
lewis
tyson
holyfield
frazier
dempsey
liston
wladimir
sullivan
jeffries
langford
charles
walcott
tunney
wills
corbett
jeanette
patterson
schmelling
baer
norton
vitali
bowe
sharkey
fitzsimmons
McVey.

 

usually when people make lists they use the term ATG to reference the complete package (resume, legacy, skills etc) under these lists vitali doesn't do to well.

the other type of lists are H"H (who beats who) these are entirely subjective and it's hard to gain any consensus.

 

by contrats my H2H top 10 list would be

louis
ali
liston
tyson
holmes
lewis
foreman
wladimir
bowe
vitali

 

It would just be a fantsay list of names like
Tony "Try a hit of this ****!!" Tubbs..........

 

Agreed.
It should be based on this;

-Quality of opponents
-COMPETITIVE Match ups
-Win/Lose Ratio
-Performance
-Ring Generalship
-Superior Technique displayed in the above scenarios
:yep

 

A plethora of emoticons merely proves vacuity.
Baer destroyed a similar fighter. No doubt modern Vitali is somewhat better, but I'd still take a Baer.
Why bring up Sullivan when I didn't?
Bugner--wouldn't surprise me if he beat Vitali at all.
Thanks.
Add Bugner to the list.
7 more please.

 

Real dumb and dumber.
Boilerplate much?
You got Vitali on your beating Vitali list.

 

Note that on my list, I was serious and didn't just throw out boilerplate names. E.g., I don't think Rocky could have beaten Vitali as some scream.