Enough "PBF avoided Margarito" Threads!

Lets outline this for the Joyboys, now that you plan to spray propagandistic LIES in this thread.

Arum wanted Mayweather to fight Margarito. And the way he had it worked out was Mayweather would get the big share of the Margarito fight, and likely split even on the Cotto and Hatton fights.

Mayweather declined that offer and wanted 10 for Hatton and 10 for Cotto. And he wanted a 20 guarantee for DLH that was simply unrealistic because Arum wasn't working with GBP (well documented history).

So you tell me who was playing the negotiations game. Floyd took a page right out of RJJ playbook. Don't want a fight? Make ridiculous demands. Now maybe Mayweather knew he'd get more without Arum. So what. He never came back to fight Tony. Not for legacy and not for money. The man wanted no part of Tony. And that is that. History will prove it.

 

You're delusional. Read the ****ing thread especially the posts made by Victor he backs up his with facts and quotes from Arum you and others just spew hate filled stuff with no facts behind it. You PBF haters have been forever onwed in this thread. :hi:

 

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Ridiculous demands??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Floyd make close to $100 million last year? Seems to me he was asking for a lot less than what he ended up making.

 

Simple, Arum could've done what he always does. He could've offered each guy a supposed career high payday, and then embark on a character assasenation campaign if they balked. He could then start calling Floyd the most feared man at WW; building his name up without ever having to beat anyone. Given Floyd's status as the p4p champ, somebody would've relented and the money would flow in.

 

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smoke screen: an action intended to conceal or confuse or obscure; "requesting new powers of surveillance is just a smokescreen to hide their failures"

 

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Dude, you don't get how it works. Tony was willing to take peanuts against the P4P best. Arum had a bit of leverage to make that offer.

Cotto is not a big draw in the states, and there is absolutely no way he is going to take what Tony would have taken. Hatton is a big draw at home, but this is the states remember. And again, no way he is taking less than Mayweather.

So both the Cotto and Hatton fights are real speculation because Arum has to guarantee a whole lot more money. 8 million plus Margarito's sub-million compared to 10 + 10++. Do the math.

 

"Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

""That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road." (Floyd ended up making over $20 million for Oscar, Arum is obviously upset now)

"Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million." (He was willing to fight Marg, but wanted more against Cotto and Hatton, which was justifiable. Especially with Hatton)

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

Smoke screen you said?? I don't think so.

Once again....


EVIDENCE > conjecture


I've provided EVIDENCE to back up my assertions... you have provided nothing. :-( :-( :-(


Arum thought the $20 million wasn't there to fight Oscar, he was wrong. He thought he couldn't earn $10 million with Hatton, he was wrong. Odds are, he would have been wrong about the earnings vs Cotto as well.

 

They do this all day everyday .. I presented the link to this information months ago and they still refuse to debate the evidence .

 

Pull your head outta Floyd's *******, clown and read above. We've been beyond this since the last page.

Read my above post. 10 million for Cotto, 10 million for Hatton when NEITHER of those guys are gonna take what Tony was willing to take. Are you that ****ing dense?

 

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That's funny, because didn't Hatton and Mayweather just have a fight for HUGE money? Seems to me there was plenty of money to go around considering Floyd made over $20 million. (Hatton took less BTW) Floyd couldn't have his $10 million when he just made over 20? See you're saying "what would have happened" and I'm saying "what DID happen." See the difference?

Cotto is(was) another undefeated vs undefeated hype job... again big number possibilities with a personality like Mayweather. If Mayweather did 300k with Baldomir, he could easily do much better with a marketable fighter like Cotto.

It seems to me you are talking with conjecture again when EVIDENCE is proving you wrong.

 

Ambition, you don't know how it works. You have no idea what those fights could've pulled in. Hell, you didn't even believe made $20 mill+ for the Hatton and Hoya fights. You say Ricky's not going to take less than Floyd, but when they fought, Floyd got more moeny.

 

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Again, this is all hindsight. It has no place circa 2006, does it?

Anyways all this **** is irrelevant. So he made more without Arum than he did staying with him. He still wants no part of Tony today.

And I'm done with this dumb ****. The joyboys will forver spin it and throw propaganda until the thread is locked. It's a waste of my day. None of you are willing to look at the difference between foresight and hindsight, only going on numbers produced after the fact.

 

The evidence is Floyd made more money buy himself then he did with Arum .