Enzo Calzaghe just can't keep his mouth shut

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by dan-b, May 22, 2008.


  1. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Fergie should never go until he's ill of health.

    He's adapted his management style and created a side that could dominate for at least 5 years.

    Just don't see any reason he should go. He's still the best manager, players still respect him, his fans love him, he's got nothing better to do and his wife wouldn't want him to retire.

    I pity the poor ******* who takes over after Fergie.
     
  2. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    I agree with you but at the same time I think he actually does want to enjoy some kind of retirement so maybe it's the right decision. There's still plenty of time for a u-turn anyway.;)
     
  3. TFFP

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    3 years is a long time in football, especially when you are 66 with a history of heart problems...heaven forbid

    So, I'm not too worried about that. When it does happen, I'd look no further than Quieroz. I'm not often one that believe in promoting from within, it rarely works, but I'd make this an exception.
     
  4. dan-b

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    Do you think there's any chance it could affect the motivation of the players though? Thats my main concern.
     
  5. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Queiroz would be a disaster

    Like McGuiness after Busby

    Here's hoping
     
  6. TFFP

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    I don't think so. There were some murmurings of discontent amongst the United faithful a few seasons ago regarding Quieroz and his increasing influence whilst we were struggling by our standards, but at the same time he has to take a great deal of credit now

    He apparently does most of the training sessions, has a huge say on tactics, and the connections with Portuguese football are obviously serving us well with regards to transfers. You also have to consider he speaks nearly every language going, which is important in attracting players and keeping up morale in the modern day squads

    I can't see any other candidate out there that would offer a smoother transition, I really can't. The only thing that worries me is motivation as you say, Fergie is a genius in that respect, that is probably his main role these days. Perhaps there would be the opportunity to bring in Keano as assistant to fulfil that sort of role, as I don't trust his judgement of transfers and tactics, but that I could see him doing. Whether he'd want to become an assistant is another matter...
     
  7. brown bomber

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  8. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's why he's not giving a set date. It has been proven time and time again that players tend to lose that little something when they know their manager is leaving at the end of that campaign.

    Look at United in 2001/2002. Rangers in 1997/1998 when Smith was stepping down. Even Southampton when Strachan said he wasn't signing a new contract and would leave that season: they went on a horrible losing streak thereafter.

    Ferguson is being savvy with this. I have a feeling that if he attains great success next season he might just go at the end of that year. The lack of a specific date is designed to keep the players on their toes.
     
  9. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    I agree with you whole heartedly but what I meant in terms of motivation was between now & when Fergie actually calls it a day. Some felt that last time Fergie announced his "retirement" performances suffered a bit.
     
  10. dan-b

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    I'm happy to hear that & I think you're right. If Ferguson did retain the Champions League next year what better way to retire?
     
  11. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Has the 'smooth transition' ploy ever worked for a club?

    Just off the top of my head recently. Allardyce to Lee. Mourinho to Grant. Sven to McClaren. Jewell to Hutchinson. (Bearing in mind these guys aren't even half the legendary figures that Ferguson is)

    Saunders to Barton at Villa worked for a season mind you.
     
  12. TFFP

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    I don't really buy it

    I'm not sure the players are remotely thinking about when Fergie is going to retire when they walk onto a pitch, it just doesn't wash with me. I'd hope this set of players is made of sterner stuff than that...

    I reckon Fergie said it to force himself out, because he'll struggle to call it quits himself if he doesn't. Now he's put a timescale on it, after going back on his decision last time, he'll probably feel he has no choice. The guy deserves some retirement, to visit the worlds finest vineyards and sample the wine and all that...
     
  13. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    Glad to hear that.:D
     
  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Indeed. He would have won 3 European titles just like Paisley though he would be tantalisingly close to Liverpools overall record which might just tempt him :huh

    He ought to go next year though if he does repeat this years success. Im a Celtic supporter and Liverpool are the side I follow down south and I already regard him as the best British manager ever above Paisley, Stein and Shankly no less.
     
  15. TFFP

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    Yeah, it rarely seems to work

    But for me this is an exception, I very much doubt if any of the examples there had quite the influence Quieroz seems to have

    Whoever does it is on a hiding to nothing.