Enzo Maccarenelli..............explosive interview in this issues Boxing Monthly !!!!

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  1. Beeston Brawler

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    He had fought loads at cruiserweight

    He was one of Enzo's WBU 'title' predecessors

    Think before you blink, squire :lol:
     
  2. D-MAC

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    Fighter A, thats right, the gimpy looking white fella, is your typical gatekeeper/journeyman/contender type of fighter. He's alright....nothing special though. There are a good few fighters like him.




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    Fighter B, thats right, the cool looking mutha with all the belts hanging off him, is a unified CW world champion and future HW world champion (fingers crossed).


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    Fighter B recently mauled the living **** out of Fighter A, proving beyond doubt that he is the superior boxer (most of us knew this already, but Joe Public needed to be convinced).

    Fighter B has bigger fish to fry, and couldn't be bothered with another fight with Fighter A because the result is a foregone conclusion. Fighter B is after the big fights and the big money at HW, while Fighter A already sports a cracking pair of jugs at CW and one would be surprised if he moved up to duke it out with the big boys (most of whom would handily dispose of him in the early rounds).

    In conclusion, Fighter B has nothing to prove in relation to Fighter A, while the latter should learn to keep his mouth shut and focus his attention on possible opponents that are...how would you put it?...down at his level.


    You don't wanna end up like this again:

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  3. FLINT ISLAND

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    what the **** you on about? :huh

    his only fight at cruiserweight was Jirov - he might have fought at crusierweight a few times when he was bloated and against journeymen - he went off the rails for a while and dropped away from all contention - so it was not news worthy what weight he was fighting at

    but his WBU title reign was at light heavyweight - during the late 1990's.

    James Toneys mother wrote into boxing news - about 1996- 1998 - to defend her sons WBU title - cos people were slagging it off
     
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  5. FLINT ISLAND

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    Ok I concede that had fought at crusierweight before - the reason why I am patchy on that was because most of them fights were a bloated out of shape Toney against journeymen - when he was dropped out of all contention.

    His only real world title fight at the weight was Jirov.

    However I still say that Toneys WBU title reign was at light heavyweight not cruiserweight - agree or disagree?
     
  6. FLINT ISLAND

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    why am I a ****** for just asking a simple question

    I werent arguing with you.

    I just wanted to know if you read it
     
  7. FLINT ISLAND

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    Ok I just checked Box Rec

    It seemed he wan both WBU titles at light heavy and crusierweight

    Ok I got it wrong

    the reason being - I always remeber him as WBU Champion at light heavyweight

    I wasnt checking facts and figures like Box rec - I was just going on memory

    You got realise - that during them silly title fights at light heay and crusierweight - no-one was paying too much attention to Toney then he was a bloated out of shape fighter who had lost his way

    The Jirov fight got him back into the limelight and taken seriously again - it was the first fight in a long time he had been motivated and come in shape and meant business
     
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  9. Fat Joe

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    :rofl :rofl
     
  10. D-MAC

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    :huh

    (1) Ya What?

    Would you not say he has more of a chance than say....Enzo Mac? More chance than me or you for that matter.

    Please expand on this statement; it doesn't make sense.

    (2) Yes there is. He's a big punching former CW world champion, who also happens to have a crowd pleasing style. He also has the looks (I'm not gay, just saying it how it is) and the charisma, and he is therefore marketable as ****.

    (3) :huh again

    What does this mean. You don't forget about a fighters past just because he has vacated and moved division. Haye will still be fast-tracked due to past achievements.

    Haye has a massive advantage over the majority of the HW contenders. It would be stupid to ignore that fact. He can't be that hyped, because he has already achieved so much. I'm not saying he is definitely gonna be HW champ (hence the "fingers crossed" reference) but he has a damn good chance.

    The GREAT ENZO MAC couldn't beat him; why should Haye not become HW champ?
     
  11. FLINT ISLAND

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    what I meant was - at the moment he is a challenger wanting his chance for the heavyweight title - just like the rest of the challengers - like Wladimir said -

    "get in the queue - you are a nobody in this division"

    and what I meant was

    there is no speical entitlement to Haye being heavyweight champion

    just because you or the majority of Britain want him to become heavyweight champion - (I hope he wins it also)

    to the rest of the world

    to USA

    to Wladimir

    to Vitali

    to the heavyweight division

    he is just another fighter who wants to be heavyweight champion

    Britain might treat him as the heir apparant - but the rest of the world will not

    A recent interview with Mike Tyson - he didnt even know who David Haye was
     
  12. D-MAC

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    Fair play Flint:good

    Nice to hear you say that mate.

    Do you not think though that the fact that he is the former CW world champion, and a massive puncher at that weight, will give him leverage (marketability wise) over the majority of the other contenders up at HW.

    If Mike Tyson doesn't know his name then I think that says more about Mike's lack of knowledge of the current game than it does about Haye's lack of exposure. ****, there are guys whose names I know, and whose fights I have watched, who fight exclusively in Asia and are in unfashionable lower weight divisions (John and Hasegawa spring to mind).

    At the moment we don't really know how far Haye will go in the HW division; hopefully the Barrett fight will answer some questions for us.
     
  13. FLINT ISLAND

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    Yes - he defenelty has leverage behind him and make a impact in the division to fast track him to a shot at the title

    I mean more in the ring - fighters like Vitali and Wlad are not going to freeaze and bow down to him as some heir apparant
     
  14. D-MAC

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    I'm not too sure about Vitali yet (wait and see what his comeback is like), but I agree with you that Vlad will give him problems, especially with that jab (of course, Vlad is a bit fragile, both mentally and physically; I think Haye's style would worry him - especially the speed of hand and foot. Vlad sometimes looks petrified when an opponent is throwing punches in his general direction).
     
  15. Fat Joe

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    :lol: Not a good way to be when you are a professional HW
     
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