Enzo vs Haye, March 8th. Finally!!!!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by suby81, Dec 28, 2007.


  1. steelem

    steelem Active Member Full Member

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    no idea why your baffled - you like a fighter you dont - i dont like haye full stop!!!
     
  2. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Hard fight to call, some here are assuming Haye wins easy because he beat Mormeck who was there for the taking and was average anyway and underrate Macca because of resume.

    Haye hasn't shown head movement to slip under a jab since he beat Gurov either.
     
  3. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Er
    Errrrm the Braithwaite fight showed his new found skills not press releases.
     
  4. Sly

    Sly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can you say Mormeck was 'average' and 'there for the taking'? I can guarantee you weren't saying those things BEFORE Haye knocked him out. Mormeck was clearly the best cruiser on the planet and had the perfect style to give Haye major problems.

    On one hand you're saying Mormeck was 'average', and then you're saying Maccarinelli proved himself as the new Lennox Lewis because of the way he beat Wayne Braithwaite. How can that work? Did you ever see Mormeck batter Braithwaite around the ring and drop him? If anyone was there for the taking it was Braithwaite. The guy was semi-retired when Enzo got to him. He was happy to just to take his paycheck and return to Guyana to live it up a little bit.

    Maccarinelli is much more suited to Haye, style-wise. Tall, upright, horrible defence, weak chin. Enzo's dangerous going forwards - he throws every shot in the book well - but he can't fight going backwards and has NO DEFENCE. If Mark Hobson could punch a little bit we wouldn't even be talking about Haye vs. Maccarinelli.
     
  5. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    even money fight. enzo has enough power to win but i think haye has slightly better boxing ability so the advantage is with haye
     
  6. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    I was saying Haye would beat Mormeck as long as the weight didn't effect him. Newbies can;t guarantee what I said If they've only just joined here. The only problems he caused was hitting Haye on the chin.

    I said Mac looked like a cruiser version of Lennox Lewis the way he outboxed Braithwaite keeping on the jab and then when close opened up with uppercuts. How can what work? He did look simular to Lewis to me.

    Mac beat Braithwaite much easier than Mormeck did. Mormeck was there for taking, anyone who struggles with O'Neil Bell was going to lose eventually and his stamina was terrible In both Bell fights.

    Enzo didn't knocked down by a Super Middleweight so who's got the weaker chin exactly? Enzo stayed up against Braithwaite well enough so his durability ain;t that bad. Haye hasn't shown the head movement he had against Gurov to slip under the jabs like he did against Gurov.

    What horrible defence? Enzo's ability has Improved alot under Calzaghe and Is using his height and reach to his advantage more and keeps a tighter defence.

    Your assuming Haye will win because he beat Mormeck, don't even use paper or resume to judge this fight.
     
  7. Sly

    Sly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What has the word 'newbie' got to do with anything? I don't even know what ones of those is. Talk about running out of things to say.

    Also, if you think Enzo beat Braithwaite more impressively than Mormeck did you've obviously, like I expected, never seen Mormeck vs. Braithwaite. Unlike Enzo, Mormeck was never rocked in that fight. He won every single round, dropped a prime, unbeaten and ambitious Braithwaite and mixed it up between brawling and boxing.

    The Braithwaite that fought Mormeck was entirely different from the Braithwaite that fought Maccarinelli.

    Oh yeah, and Maccarinelli's never looked like Lennox Lewis. He's good...but let's not flat out lie. Lennox could move his head a littl bit.
     
  8. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Advantages to Haye

    1) Haye is Bigger than Enzo
    2) Haye is a bigger puncher
    3) Haye is Stronger than Enzo
    4) Haye is faster than Enzo
    5) Haye takes body shots better than Enzo
    6) Haye is better on the backfoot
    7) Hayes toughtest fight was Mormeck (KO 7), Enzos was Braithwaite (UD12)
    8) Hayes loss was to former World Champ Carl Thompson , Enzos was to Lee Swaby a Journeyman.
    9) Haye has never been Knocked Out, only stopped, Enzo got knocked out by Swaby
    10) Haye has a better Amateur pedigree
    11) Haye is better on the ropes

    Advantages to Enzo

    1) He keeps his hands up
    2) He will get perfect treatment on the night, Haye won't (remember Woods vs Johnson)
    3) He has Enzo Calzaghe
    4) Ezno makes the weight fine, Haye struggles, Haye will be at 60-70%


    this is why i think Haye will win.

    Reason why this will be an amazing fight

    Two Heavyweight Punchers, with Light Heavy Speed, Middleweight Chins, and Featherweight Hearts. Both to hit the canvas, but Haye to win within 8 Rounds.
     
  9. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    I can only presume you never actually saw the Mormeck fight? You obviously never saw Haye v Fraggomeni either. In both of those fights he had to overcome hard times and find another level.
    Enzo too has shown good spirit, so I am a bit baffled as to how you can critisize these guys hearts.
     
  10. Steve Fox

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    Braithwait was ****, you know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
     
  11. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Lets hope this fight lives up to its billing and its a good competitive affair.

    Big rivals, lot at stake, both boxers share strengths and weaknesses including power and fragility - will probably be a case of which fighter lands well first.

    Overall I favour Haye.
     
  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    when i say Featherweight hearts i mean it as a good thing, like Barrera and Morales!
     
  13. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm going to put my money on Macca pulling of an upset, although this fight could go anyway, and I don't care who wins, I like both of these guys, but I'm just buzzing the fight has happend.
     
  14. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Haye will win because he has a bigger punch and has been in with better class opponents also has punch resistence look at the Mcormeck fight.
     
  15. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Just because I don't share your opinion doesn't mean you can assume what I have and havent watched.

    The newbie point was you saying you guaranteed that I didn't say how bad Mormeck was before the fight yet I was saying Haye would win all along as Mormeck struggles with taller fighters and was looking awful against Bell and Bell was lucky to be a champ. It seemed you wern't around long enough on here to see what I was saying.

    Mac won every round against Braithwaite too and Is much fitter than Mormeck.

    How I'm I flat out lying? I said Macca looked like Lewis the way he worked off the jab and had those uppercuts. His style was simular In my opinion. It Is opinion which Is not lying.