Erík Morales SHREDS Canelo; Says Ginger Fights Old/Shot Fighters!

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly bro. He'snot here to debate or talk boxing, he is here to push his agenda to make himself feel better. Its weird.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I do. I don't count Pacs wins over Cotto and Margarito as title winning efforts.
    I didn't like GGG using catchweights against Rolls. I don't like Mayweather using them against Canelo or Marquez, I flat out don't like them.

    So yes, I do, because Catchweights go against the foundations of the sport. There are weight classes for a reason and the titles are for that specific weight, not around it.
    I'll give you that, still had traces of it though.
    If there were cards like 119-109 or 118-110 in GGGs favour I would.
    With the KD I can't see a case for GGG losing them, a draw would've been fine for SD. They were close, but GGG scored KDs in both, Canelo didn't score a KD in any of his controversial fights, if he did they'd probably be less controversial.
     
  3. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tries to come of as unbiased then exposes himself by using BS lines like that. lol

    What's your take on tonights fight(Canelo vs Kova)?
     
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    How about Pacquiao avoided random testing when it mattered most.
     
  5. ellerbe

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    You sound like a Trump supporter lol. Every time someone tries to criticize Trump(Canelo in your case), the first thing they deflect to is Hillary DOE, OBAMA DOE. Just admit Canelo is a drug cheat and move on, why bring up irrelevant ****?
     
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  6. IsaL

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    Now do you realize that when Canelo fought for championships at catchweights, it was not his condition? It was Cotto's and it was Khan's. Also the other times he fought at 155 it was in NON-Title fights. Do you have an issue with fighters fighting at catchweights for non-title fights?

    You don't have to give me anything, it is what it is. Canelo tested negative for trace amounts both times, OBVIOUSLY from the same source. Canelo tested squeaky clean just a few weeks later, took a hair follicle test that would have detected any blatant clen use and came back clean, enrolled in VADAs most stringent program and proceeded to kick GGGs ass.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but KDs don't win an entire fight. A fight is scored by round. 12 rounds. GGG arguably lost both fights.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    How about there not being VADA for tonight....

    But your point is a good one. It harms Pacquiao's legacy, because of it he didn't get the Mayweather fight and it doesn't look good.
     
  8. IsaL

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    Like a Trump supporter? LMAO!!

    Trump supporters don't need to bring up losers like Hillary or incompetent presidents like Obama. Trumps record speaks for itself. BEST ECONOMY!!

    And the only reason I bring those fighters up is to expose a double standards knucklehead. Can't have it both ways son.
     
  9. IsaL

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    Last time I checked VADA's website Canelo is currently enrolled.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    Yes. Was Fielding? It was Canelo's request and sanctioned.
    Yes, there are weights for a reason. If a fighter is being sanctioned and rated at a weight, surely they should fight at that weight.
    I don't like Catchweights in any circumstances, just fight at the weights in Boxing. There's enough of them.
    I'm perfectly aware. But a KD means that GGG effectively only had to win 6 rounds in a fight to win, or 5 to draw.
    Can you show me the 8 rounds he'd have needed lose to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko?
     
  11. IsaL

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    These guys are jokers pretending to be fair minded.

    I think Kovalev should be the favorite to win. Canelo has a big task ahead of him and I'm not sure he can pull it off. Obviously Canelo is more talented and a lot more skilled, but Kovalev possesses that long jab and quick overhand right.

    If Canelo can get pass the jab and stay on the inside he may have a good shot a winning, but if Kovalev proves to be to strong and big for Canelo to hang on the inside I don't see what else Canelo will be able to do since I don't see him winning at mid or long range.
     
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  12. IsaL

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    Fielding was at 168, no catchweight.

    Well I don't know how long you have followed boxing but MOST fighters fight a pound or two above their limit in non-title fights. Golovkin himself has done it 3-4 times incase you didn't know.

    I can easily show you 8 rounds. I won't be bothered to do it now, but there is a clear case that he lost 8 rounds.
     
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  13. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Good for Erik for having the cajones to say it.
     
  14. ElCyclon

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    An extremely effective method of point out hypocrisy and double-standards, why haven't you figured that out already?
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    Correct, I was wrong. Sorry.

    I'm aware of that, GGG has done it, Toney did it, Jones, Duran, ect ect. I don't like it though. Especially if it helps there ranking at that weight.

    It's not a clear case, Jacobs and Derevyanchenko do not have a clear case for winning 8 rounds without being very bias to them or against GGG.
    Just for someone to say Jacobs lost to Canelo you'd have to be actively giving Jacobs close rounds.