Erik Morales vs Guillermo Ringondeaux

Easywork for rigo would bring the best out in him, and morales would fell his power on hard counters and get stopped! :deal

 

I was very hesitant about reading on after your first sentence, given that the best Cuban boxing has produced..for a pro context (Wilfredo was a World Amateur Gold medalist anyway, and Salvador turned pro at 16) are Kid Chocolate (old school Kid Chocolate, not Quillin), Kid Gavilan, Luis Manuel Rodriguez and Jose Napoles. H2H, Wilfredo Gomez and Salvador Sanchez are better although it is debatable whether or not they are 'greater'. To say they are not up there with Felix Savon certainly isn't an exaggeration - this is from a guy who likes amateur boxing (is an avid follower of it too) more than pro boxing and has an inclination to defend amateur fighters. This is not something I'm willing to argue here because it is pointless waste of time, almost like this post but hey.

Rigo is up there with the very best of all time in terms of H2H ability and is one of the very greatest amateurs of all time. Gomez has got the style to give Rigo a lot of problems, let alone Sanchez, although I do have Rigo beating Gomez 'perhaps', and Sanchez vs Rigo matchup very hypothetical.

I completely disagree with your other statement about the class gap between Olympic and pro fighters, recently vs in the 70's/80's and every single knowledgeable boxing writer and poster will completely disagree with you, and think its one of the very worst statements I've ever heard on a boxing forum.

I hope you're not offended, but I'm going to skip reading your posts whenever I see your name because it would be a waste of my time and - I honestly mean zero offence or malice although it sounds like I do. :?

If anyone's 'stopping' anyone, Morales would be stopping Rigondeaux. Although to me, Rigo will be victor.

 

WEll thoughtout and correct, your right about everything you posted here, and you can tell the abilities of rigo compared to sanchez and gomez are far apart, it takes talent to know talent alot of the time,

The outcome would be rigo outboxing them simple as that, he's just a better boxer

 

atsch

Who here on this forum are considered the most knowledgeable by the way? i.e those who have good boxing history knowledge and good insightful input in boxing discussion from todays era. Do they post regularly? (I'm relatively new here).

 

I am the most knowledgable, the guy who posted that also knew what he was talking about unlike yourself, well thought out and to the point and correct in every statemeant :deal u said that gomez and sanchez were up there with the best cuba has produced which is a disgraceful comment, to compare them to the likes of kindelan like the guy said and savon is ridiculous, there abilities don't match up at all, and rigo is up there with the best of cuba

 

If Nonito Donaire was able to touch him with power and knock Rigo down, Erik would find a way to make the fight.

 

Yeh a punch off a clinch GTFO u troll what about morales been stopped three times, has rigo been stopped no, so what are you talking about, Morales could get koed if he feels rigos power who hits far harder than morales!!

 

Skipping your posts from now on too. I forgave your trolling of some random guy on another post which was a headache, but it looks like you're no good in any way.

Goodbye.

 

You got schooled again, Your a troll and YDKSAB no loss, at all :-( to read some of the rubbish you posted absolutely crazy!! good rid-ins

HAve you ever boxed BTW? tell me at what level then I may respect you, I know more than you'll ever know about the sport

 

Anyone who picked Morales doesn't know boxing, wasn't Morales outboxed thoroughly by Zahir Raheem, a guy who in the olympics was outclassed and put down by a cuban called Arnaldo Mesa, Rigo is one of the best cuba has ever produced, if you picked morales you don't know boxing!

If Raheem was outclassed and stopped in 1 round by an average cuban, could outbox Morales imagine what Rigo would do to him, stop the trolling!!

 

I don't think that you've understood what I was trying to say. I didn't say that there is a class gap between Olympic and pro boxing. I was referring to boxing as a sport. I said that in Olympic boxing, there is not too much philosophy and politics about that, and pretty much everyone is aware that the athletes generally become better and better, therefore there's no question that 2004 Olympians generally fought at the higher level than the 1980 Olympians. Of course, it's not necessarily and strictly always like that, but that's generally the case, and a comparison I've made between Rigo of 2004 and Hernandez of 1980, I was pointing out that Rigo is realistically much better because the limits today are far higher than they used to 30 or 40 years ago. It's all natural and there's nothing wrong with that.

I am also relatively new on boxing forums, and there was never any question for me regarding the evolution of "pro boxing" as a sport. I've never expected to see people around here (and in media as well) claiming that the sport didn't progress, but in fact "stagnated" or "regressed", but I've quickly found out that they have their own reasons (and politics as well) for making claims like that and I generally keep myself away from debates like that.

And I'm not offended of course, even if it wasn't a misunderstanding, you can think whatever you want, it's not like I want to force my view on the others. I've seen some of your posts and you indeed make a lot of good points generally, and also like you I'm pretty much "into" Olympic/Amateur boxing more than the "pros", so if you think otherwise regarding the points I've made, we'll just have to disagree, so no hard feelings about that.

 

Did you see the Cordoba vs Rigs fight? If you had, then you would know better than to argue Split Decision. The highlight of the fight for Cordoba was being awarded a flash knockdown when Rig's dived into his jab, and got back up immediately. Cordoba couldn't do much with Rigs although he was much bigger. Rigondeaux landed most of the meaningful punches of the fight, while Cordoba didn't land much at all. Not to mention it was Rigondeaux's 7th Pro fight. Not a bad outing at all.

 

El Terrible by UD or SD decision. If he could handle Floyd he could definitely handle Rigo. Esp a prime Morales.

 

Had to open this thread up again & get a quick chuckle...

 

Raheem wasn't a big guy he was skinny, and fought as a bantamweight as an amateur, and as a feather as a pro, what in the hell are you talking about, he was stopped in 1 round in 96 against a Cuban called Arnaldo Mesa, who was a good boxer but not as good as rigo, rigo would school Raheem easily, and Morales got thoroughly outboxed by Raheem,

Pacquiao at feather or Bantam would look ordinary against rigo, would get outboxed too im afraid,

The trolling you do is hilarious going life and death with a flyweight smh, read this post by this guy, he completely schooled you as did I

The Akbar One "Did you see the Cordoba vs Rigs fight? If you had, then you would know better than to argue Split Decision. The highlight of the fight for Cordoba was being awarded a flash knockdown when Rig's dived into his jab, and got back up immediately. Cordoba couldn't do much with Rigs although he was much bigger. Rigondeaux landed most of the meaningful punches of the fight, while Cordoba didn't land much at all. Not to mention it was Rigondeaux's 7th Pro fight. Not a bad outing at all." Cordoba was a former world champion also and a super bantam not a flyweight u stupid moron, Cordoba also beat Poonsawat by some peoples judging it was a split decision, and poonsawat was a good world champ, cordoba now fights at featherweight not fly, I think your trolling tbh

Like the guy said rigo got straight up and wasn't hurt, he walked into a hard jab that took his balance, just an awkward shot,

Tell me how many times Morlaes has been stopped? and then tell me how many times rigo has been stopped? lol thats right 0 and morales has been put down many times and stopped three times, i doubt morales would take rigos punch I see him getting over eager and getting koed, riggo punches far harder than him

REad his post and top trolling please GOD! I'm gonna try and ignore your troll posts from now on and try not to reply but your soo deluded and ignorant its hard not to own you!!

You admitted to trolling earlier about Rigo's chin, I suspect your still trolling now!