Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao

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  1. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Pac but gotta go with 2-0 El Terible.
     
  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    There's more than enough evidence to prove that my answer is the most logical one. Sorry. :D
     
  3. viperguy

    viperguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac at 122, 126 with reyes glove was the ****. I truely believe that if Pac didn't get cut and if he got to wore his reyes glove he would have won the first Morales fight. Anyway it's still not a fair fight as Barerra and Morales are clearly bigger than Pac.
     
  4. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. Spitbucket

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    Care to rethink that:think
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    We can only guess. :deal
     
  7. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    What the **** is this ****? You better have a good excuse for coming out with dumb **** like this.
     
  8. mexican legend

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    Erik all day in his prime.
     
  9. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Maybe he was thinking about the 1999 versions of both fighters.

    112 vs 122.
     
  10. riannu25

    riannu25 Active Member Full Member

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    Lets post some of you premises and dissect them..........


    You were saying prime eric right? What weight did Eric peaked? 122? I'd say pac's absolute prime was 130.

    Prime EM love's to brawl right? In beating pac in the first match, EM displayed discipline in boxing pac, so unlike in his barrera matches (except 2). I always thought that had he boxed like that he have won his trilogy with MAB. And spitbucket, you gotta be honest that EM learned from the JMM fight.

    Pac wasn't always the bigger man. Only in the 3rd fight did he outweight EM 144 to 140lbs. 2nd fight they were both 140 and in the 1st EM was actually bigger.

    I think you're always selling pac short. Maybe because the way he destroyed them that we have to find for reasons for a complete destruction of a legend so we say he's shot whatever. He beat him in the first fight...............without thinking EM has some things going into him like being bigger, hungrier (just lost to MAB and wants to prove something), pac's vulnerabilities has been exposed by JMM and that pac was still a work-in-process by then.
     
  11. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    STFU noob. :twisted:




















    :yep Pinoy?

    Welcome to ESB, pards. :cool:
     
  12. PH|LLA

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    prime Pac has what it takes to beat prime Morales at least 7 times out of 10.

    truth is when Pac fought Morales at 130 he had moved up weight classes so fast that he never had time to adjust and also he got unlucky with that nasty cut and still managed to lose by only 2 points.

    3-0 for Pacquiao or 2-1 at worst
     
  13. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Erik and Manny are/were 2 great warriors and it just happened that Erik was past it when thay fought but still the warrior won 1 fight.When the time will come Manny will lose to a young guy and we will say the same for him.It's just how things go
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    EM would have won. He could go to war with Manny or outbox him when needed.
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    So many wars? There were 3 with Barrera, but I don't know if that's "too many" for a guy with Morales's conditioning. I think you're doing Erik a disservice there, many great fighters have had far more than 3 wars and continued successfully. When Morales first fought Pacquiao he was 29 years old and 47-2.
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    Barrera was more battle-worn than Morales. And 29 isn't old by anyones standards.

    The Raheem fight proved Erik wasn't ready for lightweight- nothing more.

    The way I look at Morales, Barrera, Pacquiao and Marquez is: they were all so so good, all so evenly-matched, that any of them could have beaten any of them on any given day. It is a nonsense to say Morales could have beaten Pac "any day of the week", what Morales is that, the one that Barrera beat twice?? And what Pac is it, the Pac that smoked Barrera twice?? What you're saying doesn't add up.

    Morales beat Pacquiao in their 1st fight because Morales was an excellent fighter, a great fighter, who was hurting at losing to Barrera and came out and gave a career-best performance. It is no slight on Pacquiao that he lost to a great producing the best performance of his career at aged 29.

    In their 2nd fight, Morales was 30, and still fought like a lion and was beaten by the better man on the night. Only in their 3rd fight did he look like he had aged overnight, only in that fight did he not fight like the fighter he was.

    So it was 1-1 between them, and I think if they fought 100 times when both were at their peak, it would be close to 50-50, the evidence that they were very even at 1-1 would check out IMO.

    I think Pacquiao is the superior fighter p4p, but not by much.