Erislandy Lara: Arguably Undefeated

Uh you spell "Williams" with 3 L & "Lara" with a U...that's all I need to know about your boxing analysis. Enjoy your vacation.

 

Interesting to see how his career would have went if he had gotten the decisions against Williams and Canelo.

 

I'm not a Hurd fan but Lara did lose that one fair and square. Agree he was robbed against PTP and Canelo, though. Hf memory serves he also deserved the nod in his technical draw with Martirosyan. His other two draws, like @CST80 mentions, are best case scenario for him, so you can argue that he only deserves the one loss (Hurd) but you can't say he ought to be altogether "unblemished".

 

Arguably undefeated..................... until you go on Boxrec and see he's been defeated.

 

His point was you have to go and actually watch the fights and score them instead of going to boxrec.

 

He did get pretty beat up against Hurd and lost, but damn what a fight that was.

 

If you give him every benefit of the doubt and be biased, pack his fights with Canelo-like judges he may have an undefeated record, but looking at it objectively, he did lose a few fights legitimately like Molina & Hurd.

Molina won more rounds against Lara and Hurd won enough rounds with 1 KD.

I thought he got robbed against Williams. The Canelo fight is debatable. I think most people had it 4-4 after 8 rounds. I thought Lara may have edged it, but I can see a draw if they split the last 2 rounds.

Either way, I think he has 2 legit losses.

 

Some of those were either way fights, but he beat Canelo and if he got the breaks Canelo got he would be undefeated.

Sadly, that is how boxing is.

 

Lara was ahead on all 3 judges scorecards before he was knocked down in the 12th round which gave Hurd the split decision victory. The judges of that match were Dave Moretti, Glenn Feldman and Bert Clements. The same judges who scored many of Canelo's matches, did have Lara ahead after 11 rounds. So when you say if you pack his fights with Canelo-like judges, he may have an undefeated record, that doesn't make any sense because he did have "Canelo-like judges" against Hurd, and was rightfully ahead going into the final round, got knocked down in the 12th and lost which you agree was the correct verdict. Against Molina, 2 judges scored it a draw (one of those was CJ Ross) and the other judge had it 97-93 Molina. So in that situation there appears to be 2 swing rounds that could be argued for Lara that made it a draw. Boxrec's summary states that Teddy Atlas scored it a 95-95 draw as well, giving Molina the first 3 rounds, which is interesting because Teddy has become like the leader against judging corruption, but yet in that situation, he agreed with CJ Ross who scored that a draw, which differs from your view that Molina won more rounds.

Pretty much everybody thought that was a robbery. And the interesting thing about that is that it was in Atlantic City, NJ which didn't involve judges who typically score Canelo's matches in Vegas.