Ernie Shavers vs "Two Ton" Tony Galento

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  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shaver's right vs Galento's hook.

    Does Galento have a reasonable chance
    to k.o. Shavers???
     
  2. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A reasonable chance ? I don´t know.....I think Galento´s power is very overrated tbh.....
     
  3. MadcapMaxie

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    On their best nights I think Galento by KO, too rough, too durable and was much superior in close.
     
  4. MadcapMaxie

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    Look at the best people Galento has stopped then look at Shavers...Shavers resume is quite weak.
     
  5. Theron

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    Galento gets close and roughs up Shavers and dosen't let him get off the right hand and gets him within 6
     
  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like shavers here by ko
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I would personaly favour Galento becauee he was more durable and didn't mid walking through helacious punches to get the job done.
     
  8. Anubis

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    Galento, in an era of six ounce gloves, was never officially floored until Louis did it over 100 bouts into Tony's career. When Joe finally did manage to turn the trick, Galento uniquely came off the floor to actually return the favor to one of the greatest finishers in heavyweight championship annals.

    Put Tony in the kind of 224 pound shape he was in for Nova, and I don't like Earnie's chances too much. Granted, Shavers had superior power, but he also needed room to unload. Galento had a better jab [short and quick, which he doubled up on well], and his hooks required less room to unload, a huge advantage inside. [Joe Frazier would have found Two-Ton an absolutely miserable opponent to deal with. Of course Frazier would eventually stop him on cuts, but Tony was shorter, had tremendous power, with quick hands and reflexes, and was completely filthy on the inside, compared to the much cleaner former Olympic titlist. Frazier himself admitted repeatedly that he didn't like dealing with shorter opponents than himself.]

    As effective a puncher as Louis was, and as literally lethal as Max Baer was, neither had an easy time dispatching Galento. Lou Nova succumbed to Tony between his stoppages of Maxie, and Lou was the only one aside from Louis to ever drop Max Baer in ending the Larruper's career. [Keep in mind that Maxie and Joe wanted to tear Two-Ton's head off. Maybe that undermined their effectiveness, but that wasn't the pattern during other highly motivated instances in the careers of Joe and Maxie.]

    Both were actually pretty smart fighters. [Galento accurately predicted the outcome of Clay-Liston I.]

    I think this might look a lot like the blowout Shavers suffered at the hands of Jerry Quarry, and near-blowout at the hands of Jimmy Ellis. Tony had over 15 professional first round stoppages, so he was certainly no slouch at starting fast. I think he swarms inside Earnie's long arms, stuns him with that quick, short hook, then Shavers is unable to recover from repeated bombs [unless the referee gives him the room he needs to unload a winner, as happened with Ellis, but Tony had a much better chin, and was far tougher and more resilient than Jimmy].

    Superior firepower does not do it for Earnie here. It's a matter of physical and mental toughness, and connecting successfully first. Tony was not a timid Ken Norton, backing away to the ropes and letting the bigger slugger get off initially. Nor would he freak if he did experience the Shavers power, any more than he did when hit by Nova, Louis or the Baer brothers. Yes, the Baer boys did both stop a fading Galento after seven rounds, but does Earnie last that long against that kind of experience, durability and firepower? I don't see it. Like the aforementioned Ellis, once Earnie stayed hurt, he tended not to recover, like Galento did against Louis. [Also with an overlooked sequence of survival skills against Max Baer after Maxie nearly decked him with a duck and massive counter right out of a neutral corner. Shavers did little more than cover up when in trouble. Tony was far more proactive on defense, clinching, ducking, dodging and leaning away from Maxie's follow-up attack until the immediate crisis was past.]
     
  9. Seamus

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    Nice post, Anubis.

    I was going back and forth on this one but you well convinced me.
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I too thought of the Shavers vs Quarry fight result.

    (and Two-Ton sloshes down a gallon of beer afterwards as he says:
    "I moidered the bum")
     
  11. nikrj

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    Two huge punchers...I go with Galento, he had heart, returned a knockdown against Louis. He got an unbelievable beating from the Baer brothers. Shavers would quit.
     
  12. janitor

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    It is also worth noting that Galento backed up everybody including Louis and Baer.

    Both of those guys decided that it was smarter to fight him on the back foot.

    That tells you something!
     
  13. Anubis

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    :lol:C'mon now, we all know that's also how he'd hydrate himself before leaving the dressing room! :beer:beer:beer:beer:beerWhaddya suppose he was swigging in his corner between rounds? This man was allergic to water. Nicotino Roacche puffed tobacco between rounds. Two-Ton kept a keg in his corner. [Is there ANY footage of Tony spitting out whatever "disinfectant" his corner was giving him?]
     
  14. Anubis

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    Yeah, and among the things it tells me is that Galento would also have a serious edge on the reactive Norton [which I realize may provoke some controversy]. As well conditioned as Ken was, he was also an extremely slow starter [when one deletes the high profile Bobick fluke from his record], and not hooking with a hooker favors Tony here, I believe, having the shorter, quicker and harder hook. [Norton was also too clean a boxer and too much of a sportsman for the savage Galento. We saw what a single LeDoux thumb to the eye did to Ken. What do five million of those thumbs from Galento inflict. Norton would need a seeing eye dog to get around today!] I don't think Ken's underjab and overhand right would be of much use with Tony, and he had to reposition himself to properly execute his right uppercut. [And of course, Norton would lose his composure when he got hurt.]
     
  15. martinburke

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