Errol Spence is top 10 h2h at welterweight

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  1. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holy **** really...you figured out I was being sarcastic...maybe you do have an i.q over 10

    I happily engaged you in the discussion of why I don't believe Errol is top 10 h2h all time....or even in the last 30 years..... Then you went full ****** the second you started making dumb arguments about Pacquiaos fights with horn as reasons why he couldn't beat Spence and saying things like cotto doesn't have a good jab or body attack lol

    Spence would beat Duran
    Spence might beat Leonard
    Spence would ko de la Hoya
    Spence would beat Trinidad

    Not one of those goes life and death with Shaun porter ... and I say that as a big Shaun porter fan.


    Anymore future atgs on your list I should be looking out for?

    Is Timmy tszyu better than Mike McCallum maybe?
     
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  2. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Don't flatter yourself. I was humoring you but now you're boring so I'm just going to ignore you. You are neither amusing nor enlightening with your poorly structured posts.
     
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  3. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ta-ta sugar tits
     
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  4. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except, he doesn’t become a welterweight without his previous experience at lower weights. You don’t just say he’s a welterweight and that’s it. There was a progression to him getting there.
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Duh.

    I didn't say he just woke up and became a welterweight. Or that his experiences in previous divisions didn't contribute.

    I'm saying that Pac at feather, light, etc is a different boxer from the one at welter. He faced different opponents and even fought differently. His power, speed, and technique were all different. Therefore, the only relevant fights if Pac is facing someone at welter is how he looked against other welters.

    Nobody would use Roy Jones blinding speed at a lower weight and apply that to the Ruiz version.
     
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  6. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lmao. It was the blinding speed that did Ruiz in. Same as Manny. His speed and ability is why he was great at the lower weights just as his speed and ability is why he was great at 147. The question surrounding him at 147 is would he be able to take the power of the bigger guys. For the most part he did. Because he was able to dart in and out of range with his feet, just as he did at the lower weights. He was able to punish the bigger fighters with flurries just as he did at the lower weights. So him being beat by Erik Morales is just as much a loss as any he suffered at 147.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    You think Jones at heavyweight was the same speed as middleweight Jones?

    Pac was a different fighter and faster in the lower weights. That is not up for debate.
     
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  8. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol and you say I have a comprehension problem. No Jones was not as fast as a heavyweight as he was at 160. However, for a heavyweight he had blinding speed and used that to his advantage. Can’t believe this needs to be explained. This explains Manny as well. Freaking a man. It’s not rocket science. For the guy who still doesn’t get it. Roy and Manny were the fastest at their weights when they started. As they climbed through the divisions, they weren’t as fast as their previous selves but they were still faster than the bigger guys they fought at the higher weights. I don’t know how much clearer I can explain it.
     
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  9. JOKER

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    2008-2012 Pac would tattoo Spence into oblivion.
     
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    Spence getting TORCHED by a small anonymous southpaw. No wonder his ass faked an injury to pull out of the fight.
     
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  11. Glass City Cobra

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    1) Ruiz is a very slow and very basic boxer who heavily relies on his fundamentals, jab, and defense to get by using an annoying jab and clinch strategy. You said, and I quote, Jones had "blinding speed" at HW which is a strange conclusion to reach since Jones had only 1 fight at HW.

    2) you just basically agreed with me that Manny and Jones were faster at lower weights and became slower as they moved up and needed to adjust their styles/strategies. If that's what you believe why are you arguing? I've been saying that about Manny for more than 20 pages.
     
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  12. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s amazing how dense you are.
     
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  13. Glass City Cobra

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    Then I guess we're both dense since you agreed with me after arguing with me for an entire week and created straw mans a.k.a lies like claiming I said Pac only fought at 147 or making dumbass statements like being a technical fighter means nothing. :lol:

    It's amazing how the stupidest people have staggering confidence.
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Sparring isn’t a fight. Idk why you still go on about that fake injury bs, Spence would’ve killed Pac if the fight went through
     
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  15. JOKER

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    Where's proof that Spence had a retina tear?
     
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