Errol Spence Jnr vs Canelo Alvarez at 154

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Real P4P, Aug 19, 2016.


  1. Real P4P

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    Canelo has fought the "better names" so has Pacquaio and khan but as a real boxing fans with your intelligent hats on judge this fight.

    who do you see winning this and how?
     
  2. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Errol Spence has yet to beat a top 15 WW, but you're matching him against
    the 1 or 2 JMW and the current lineal "MW" champion?

    It's far too early to ask this question.
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Hopefully after this Bundu fight... Spence can be taken seriously by the networks & promotion and matched against the next level.

    Let's see what he has to offer.
     
  4. Dreamking

    Dreamking Active Member Full Member

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    It's a little early for me to make an educated guess, Spence looks good, real good but I want to see him against somebody like Thurman, Bradley, Porter and how well he can deal with elite fighters. If he can dispose of them then I would have no second thoughts about him schooling Canelo.
     
  5. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    please dont say the gingerbread man is strying to fight this green kid. and has ggg on blocked phone call list. lol
     
  6. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  7. Real P4P

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    I said people who have a intelligent boxing mind should reply

    so just because a fighter has not fought the best names means he cant beat the fighter who has beat better names?

    when shawn porter wrecked paulie it was paulie who fought the better names

    Thats just one example yet i dont expect anyone with a limited knowledge of the sport to understand this

    By your thinking berto,ortiz,paulie, khan would beat spence because they fought "better names"
     
  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Re-read what I just said.
    2. Berto, Ortiz, Paulie, Khan are all fighter's at the tail end of their careers, so why would you even bring them up?
    3. Bringing up Shawn Porter, again, Paulie was at the tail end of his career, so why bring him up.
    4. I guarantee my knowledge of the sport eclipses yours. Absolutely guarantee it.

    Matching a neophyte against a man ranked top 2 that is already well accomplished, but my boxing knowledge is lacking? Do better.
     
  9. Real P4P

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    No you don't

    khan is at the tail end of his career? lol he is only 2/3 years older then spence

    danny garcia fought better names then spence but in a fight he would get knocked out by spence

    Did it ever occur to you spence might be the real deal and he just has not had the opponents yet you think thats not possible?

    Fighting better names is irrelevant when it comes to a actual fight.
     
  10. Real P4P

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    when that neophyte is the real deal then that changes everything

    when mayweather fought corrales it was corrales who fought the better names at that time but that never helped him

    when pac fought bareera for the first time it was bareera who fought the better names did that help him?

    many other cases
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan himself acknowledges and admits this :huh

    Danny would lose, and lose big, (no one disputes this) but no way on earth would Spence stop him. Just the fact that you would say this lets me know where you are with your boxing knowledge.

    The thing is Spence hasn't proven he's the real deal. Let him fight a top 15 guy at WW. And I've already posted on other threads of what I feel Spence's liabilities are and which fighters in the WW top 10 would be able to exploit them. Real deal? No, not yet.

    Fighting better names is not irrelevant when you have proven successful only vs. a certain style thus far in a career. Just look at what happened with Sammy V. a couple of weeks ago. A surefire
    prospect that hadn't been exposed to all different kinds of styles coming up, he get's dominated. the boxing landscape is littered with more of these stories than the magical guy that has fought nobody but becomes champ just because he's "better".

    ok I'm done.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    My money is on Canelo but Spence makes him look bad.
     
  13. Real P4P

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    My whole point is just because a fighter fought better names it means nothing in the fight this has been proven time and time again the key thing is if the fighter is the real deal doesnt matter who his opponents have faced if he is the better fighter it will show on fight night

    Bareera fought much better names then Pac in the first fight but that did not stop him getting stopped

    Corales fought better names then Mayweather but that did not stop him getting beat

    same with porter and paulie and there are many other examples.

    Errol has all the tools to be special
     
  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You try to come off as some 'smart' poster, but the stuff you say shows that you're just a fanboy at the most.

    Khan is at the tail end of his career, despite his age. Having been KO'd three times will shorten your career. Aren't you smart, shouldn't you know this?

    You say Danny would get KOd by Spence, and yet provide no sound reasoning to back that statement?

    It's clear as glass you aren't as smart as you pretend to be here. And kissing the ass of an undefeated fighter doesn't prove it.

    If you are going to act ****y and arrogant, at least have the posts to back up that swagger. W/O the back up, you just come off as a c*nt. :smoke
     
  15. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What an interesting fight. As some have mentioned, Spence still has to fight some of the top guys at 147 to truly gauge how good he really is. From what i've seen of him already, I think he's the best fighter at 147 lbs right now and I'd favor him to beat all the top guys in the division.

    TBH I don't know if Canelo is the best LMW in the world. I think that distinction might go to Jermall Charlo. He's a VERY big JMW, has a good all around skillset and is very powerful at the division. I'm not too sure Canelo could beat him.

    Anyway, I'd love to see Spence eventually take on some of the top 154 lbers such as Alvarez, Charlo and Lara but after he's fought the top guys in his own division.