Errol Spence jr vs Mikey Garcia - Size or Skill Before you talk boxing, know the difference

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Was it skill or size that defeated Garcia?

  1. Spence won because of his size

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  2. Garcia lost because he was naive

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  3. Garcia isn`t world class

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    This vid disproves everyones arguement that Spence won this fight due to his size, he simply picked up on Garcia`s timing, Garcia didn`t have enough amateur experience and is still green, he simply never fought at this level before, so do fans feel it was size or skill that defeated Garcia?
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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  3. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Garcia is slow this is not amateurs bruh! He couldn't close the distance quick enough on Errol Spence. He had no foot speed or hand speed which you need being the smaller guy. Guys like Tyson and Pacquiao can close the distance fast and get those hand speed off in a blink of an eye.Garcia moving up lost a lot of speed and power. Simple as that
     
  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo quaecumque vera Full Member

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    you seem like a nice guy, mark, but your ability to use the info youre gathering, is non existent. you cant tell who is a fool and who isnt, so you mash up facts with fantasy and end up with face palms for responses.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    I am always willing to listen to logic, explain why Fouts is wrong, he made a vid about this even before this bout and Mikey only had around 60 amateur fights, someone did say to me that Spence exploited his size by standing side on exploiting the full length of his lead hand while Mikey stood square meaning his lead hand wouldn`t be used at it`s maimum length, that counters this vid and I`ve put that to Fouts under his youtube vid, this is not blind faith, I have logic my friend, I respect everybodys viewpoint.
     
  6. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Both answers are not mutually exclusive. So with that, both answers are correct.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    I thought about Tyson during this bout funny enough.
     
  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Size was the biggest factor. Mikey not strong enough to deal with Spence.
     
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  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was both, his size helped him control range but just being big and rangy alone doesn't mean you can control range as guys like Corrales, Bowe, Paul Williams etc show that plenty of fighters don't fully utilise their advantages in size and reach.

    I never rated Garcia that highly, he's a tidy boxer who's solid in a lot of areas but he was never this technical marvel some made him out to be the only thing that impressed me about him was his lateral movement at times. He's a good world class fighter but he's nothing special.

    Spence for me was always better P4P, even if they were the same size I think he would of beaten Garcia though it would of been a more competitive fight, but with that size on top of his skills he was way too good for Garcia. Only thing that surprised me was that Spence didn't stop him.
     
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    why? the last time i tried explaining to you in your thread, other posters with a history of knowing boxing, told you fouts dksab. he doesnt, hes like you. he reads a lot, understanding little, and puts together videos that other clueless fans cant tell are dumb, then they go on forums and sound as dumb as he is. not commenting on intelligence, but intelligent actions.
    look at bomber above me, his very last line is being surprised spence couldnt stop him. but instead of saying the obvious, that mikeys defense was exceptional, he has to stick to the narrative hes created up to this point. learn who is worth listening to and why, it will save from being categorized with guys like fouts. sure they know more than you now, but they still dont know ****.
     
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  11. kirk

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    It was both.

    I dont have the time to explain it at the moment... maybe later. But people always always always confuses when the bigger fighter uses skill to beat the smaller guy instead of bulldozing him with size, that the size didnt matter.

    Thats not the case.

    Just because a bigger fighter uses skills to win instead of pure strength and power... doesnt mean his size didnt allow him to have the success he had with that gameplan.
     
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  12. bandeedo

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    look forward to your thoughts, as i know what youre saying above is true.
     
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    Another brilliant markant thread. :risas3:
     
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    If you're saying size/weight had nothing to do with it just skills then you are saying mikey carried the weight perfectly and it had no impact on his skills, he fits great in the division, spence is just that good. But if you believe that eh... i'll stay polite and not even go there.
     

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