Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia - Tall fighters on the outside and short on the inside, right?

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  1. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    General rule of thumb is when your tall make yourself taller by standing tall and using your reach.... and when your short make yourself shorter so the taller guy has to punch down which will make him lose some snap
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
    Watch more of his breakdowns. Dude knows his ****. He called that Alvarez was going for power in the Golovkin rematch. And he was right.
    It's clear that Garcia is going for movement in this fight, and he is right about that.
     
  3. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Clearly Mikey has never fought anybody on Spence level either. Spence is not overrated and he will show this once again come March 16.
     
  4. bandeedo

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    he doesnt even understand how a jab is suppose to be thrown.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What? Explain.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo quaecumque vera Full Member

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    listen to the video again. at 20 seconds, he talks about spences jab, tell me what you hear about the jab that shows how much he knows about technique.
     
  7. Badbot

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    And? It's a legit issue a lot of fighters have. That step can easily be read and timed.
    You have to hide the step with feints and such. Mask it with head movement.

    If you step with every damn jab, you will eventually walk into a counter.
     
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  8. bandeedo

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    why not just not step, that way they never know when youre throwing a jab?
     
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  9. Badbot

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    Have you ever boxed?
    It's not even that you can't step with the jab, but to do it with every jab is the key mistake.
    You have to get close to the opponent and not just wait on them to come to you. You can hide those steps with clever footwork and feints. And if it works, you can just step in with a jab if you have the timing down.
    Otherwise it's a highly predictable move and a big flaw.
     
  10. bandeedo

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    i have, and was corrected repeatedly, on the very first day, for not stepping in with a jab and why i needed to.
    what did they teach you about the jab?
     
  11. Badbot

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    To step with it :lol: Which was stupid.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    The clock is ticking though.
     
  13. bandeedo

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    so obviously you arent surprised when someone like spence is observed stepping in with his jab. yet, the guy who made the video is surprised, which tells us what?
     
  14. Badbot

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    I am not surprised, because it's a fundamental flaw taught at most gyms. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great tool if used right. But the way it's taught is to step in with every jab.
    That's why it's a flaw. And Fouts points it out as well.

    I recommend watching his videos. Especially the post fight breakdowns. The dude knows his ****. He perfectly explained why Golovkin jabbed so much at Lemieux. His breakdown on Hearns-Duran was great as well.

    Give it a shot, you might learn a few things. And you will likely disagree with some. But watching film studies opens up your mind to new ideas and it's great to keep learning.

    Matthew Fouts
    Lee Wylie Boxing
    Hidden Gem
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    The Modern Martial Artist
    They are all great at doing fight breakdowns. I swear I have learned a lot more from them than I have from my own gyms. (Boxing is a niche sport here, so the training quality is poor)
     
  15. bandeedo

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    dont misunderstand my position. i do not look to step into my jab because its just the way i was taught, i do it because everything i have learned since that first lesson in the gym, reinforces exactly why i need to step in with it, and why every great fighter i have watched does it. theres very few things i see regarding actual combat in that ring, that i havent considered, tried, or investigated to understand the theories behind it.
     
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