ESB Brit forum all-time British Welterweight list.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by GazOC, Feb 20, 2010.


  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    First draft:

    1) Ted Lewis
    2) Lloyd Honeyghan
    3) John H Stracey
    4) Ernie Roderick
    5) Billy Wells
    6) Dave Green
    7) Colin Jones
    8) Tommy West
    9) Brian Curvis
    10) Gary Jacobs



    Wells and West are a bit of a nightmare to rank.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:


    Going waaay back, Tommy West is worth a mention. Amongst his better results are a win and a draw versus the peerless Barbados Joe Walcott as well as a draw with Mysterious Billy Smith. A Welshman, he's probably the most underated Brit in history.


    Edit: Gaz already has him in there.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Thank **** we got a scotsman in.
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Tricky one to rank mate. He has wins over an ATG but some of his fights seemed a bit controversial and I didn't want to rank him too highly purely based on maybe just "having Joes number".

    It looks to me that he may have had fights before those listed on Boxrec? To start off with Billy Smith and Joe Chyonski as first 2 fights seems strange?
     
  5. McGrain

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    Basically they don't have his British record. Theres another absolutley cracking British fighter named Jimmy Carroll who has the same "problem" - he goes to the US, mixes it up with the very best - into his forties, mind - but doesn't have the appearence of longevity because his British record doesn't exist. Then I find out his reputation has him unbeaten in British bare knuckle fights at his weight - in other words, he was one of the best lightweights in the world for three ****ing decades. Likely one of the best in British history, too.

    West will be similar though I haven't done any real leg work on him. Funnily, I was writing about him on Classic just this morning, his epic MW title fight with Tommy Ryan, which is probably one of the best of the pre-filmed title fights. He was a counter-pressure fighter and one of the very tuoghest fighters i've ever read about, bar none. Check out the thread if you get a moment, the pasting he absorbed was insane. He also took rounds from Ryan, possibly the best pre-Greb fighter bar Fitz.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Is Carroll the guy who drew with McAulliff
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Thanks Mcgrain jogged my memory
     
  9. GazOC

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    Cheers, I figured they only had the American record. I've read a bit about Ryan, one of the early greats.

    I'll check out Carroll:good
     
  10. teeto

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    This is a good list, can i have it?
     
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    It was a good fight but he defo lost.
     
  12. GazOC

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    No probs lad. His Boxrec record is in ****, they have losses listed for him that were dropped by two totally different men.
     
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    Ted "Kid" Lewis
    John H Stracey
    Lloyd Honeyghan
    Colin Jones
    Dave "Boy" Green
    Eddie Thomas
    Kirkland Laing
    Ernie Roderick
    Ralph Charles
    Gary Jacobs
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Get Laing out of there now.