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  1. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can you add the rest? (top 15 please) :lol:
     
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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Radab im a huge JMM fan but you cannot justify him P4P king at the momemnt
     
    GPater11093, Aug 7, 2009
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  3. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really debated it, Pater. For me his last 3 fights (I've said this a few times before) are bigger wins (assuming you think he beat Pac in the 2nd fight) than Pac. I gave Pacquaio the edge on careeer CV in the end:good.
     
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  4. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Radab keeps him at 2nd spot, it will be the first time Pacquiao is not 1st in any of the lists!
     
    kosaros, Aug 7, 2009
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i just think Pac has achived so much more than JMM recently. Mannys went from Fly to LWW holding linear titles in 5 weights

    i think JMM won both fights but i cant justify ranking him 1
     
    GPater11093, Aug 7, 2009
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  6. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ive debated the whole JMM P4P number one thing too often, made threads on it too

    Manny got beaten by JMM, fought a corpse in Hoya, and a very faded Hatton who's punch resistance had copletely gone (badly hurt by Lazcano of all people)

    Meanwhile JMM beats Manny, moves up out of his natural divisoin, and stops two of the most dangerous fighters around

    Its so cut and dry that JMM is the King



    Dont really have a top 15 Kos, only happy with the top 5
     
    radab, Aug 7, 2009
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  7. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    JMM's +130 resume >>>>>>>>>> Pac's IMO.

    I had him beating Pac as well, but anyways.

    For once I chose to be conformist.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Aug 7, 2009
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  8. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well you have to at least do a top 10 Radab, otherwise it won't be accepted....sorry :good
     
    kosaros, Aug 7, 2009
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  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Radab, look at Pacquiaos achievements he has made they are unprecedented in afew years time i can see Pacquaio making top 10 ATG lists. What he has done is simply amazing.

    In my mind JMM is the better fighter at 126 through to 135. Mannys has just kept going.
     
    GPater11093, Aug 7, 2009
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  10. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brilliant. I could team up with you on the general, radab:good. I had this exact same arguement with some cretin there the other week. Obviously I was called a nuthugger as well as he had nothing rational to debate it with:deal.
     
    Losfer_Words, Aug 7, 2009
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  11. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    glad you share the same point of view Losfer :good




    as for a top 10, hmmm lets think....


    6. Mosley
    7. Kessler
    8. Wlad
    9. Lopez
    10. Pavlik


    Froch deserves a shout

    and i cant stand Wlad, humungously boring and cowardly, but he's effective and dominant in his division. his cowardly style works
     
    radab, Aug 7, 2009
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  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    why is Lopez being so highly ranked round here (not picking on you Radab) Im a huge Juanman fan but he aint done enough
     
    GPater11093, Aug 7, 2009
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  13. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    P4P isn't just based on records, its based on other factors, including how good their performances have been. JuanMa has been destructive to say the least, apart from against his last opponent, the awkward Lonchi (sp?), yet he still did a good, effective job on him.
     
    kosaros, Aug 7, 2009
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  14. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    still Lopez aint done enough surely P4P should also be based on quality of opponents aswell, Lopez is lacking there.
     
    GPater11093, Aug 7, 2009
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  15. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His last 5 opponents have been in and around world class, and he dominated and stopped them all.
     
    kosaros, Aug 7, 2009
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