these top 10 lists has been put together by the British part of the forum. would be intresting to hear the general forums views. P4P Top 15 Coming soon...... Heavyweight ESB Champ: Wladimir Klitschko 1. Vitali Klitschko 2. Nikolay Valuev 3. Alexander Povetkin 4. Eddie Chambers 5. Ruslan Chagaev 6. John Ruiz 7. David Haye 8. Chris Arreola 9. Denis Boytsov 10. Sam Peter Cruiserweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Tomasz Adamek 2. Steve Cunningham 3. Guillermo Jones 4. Giacobbe Fragomeni 5. Marco Huck 6. Victor Emilio Ramirez 7. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk 8. Grigory Drozd 9. BJ Flores 10. Ola Afolabi Light-Heavyweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Chad Dawson 2. Bernard Hopkins 3. Glen Johnson 4. Jean Pascal 5. Zsolt Erdei 6. Antonio Tarver 7. Adrian Diaconu 8. Gabriel Campillo 9. Roy Jones Jr 10. Clinton Woods Super-Middleweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Mikkel Kessler 2. Carl Froch 3. Lucian Bute 4. Librado Andrade 5. Jermain Taylor 6. Sakio Bika 7. Andre Ward 8. Karoly Balzsay 9. Andre Dirrell 10. Allan Green Middleweight ESB Champ: Kelly Pavlik 1. Arthur Abraham 2. Felix Sturm 3. Khoren Gevor 4. Sebastian Sylvester 5. Anthony Mundine 6. Ronald 'Winky' Wright 7. Dmitry Pirog 8. Gennady Golovkin 9. Sebastian Zbik 10. Amin Asikainen Light-Middleweight ESB Champ: Vernon Forrest (RIP 1971-2009) 1. Sergiy Dzindziruk 2. Sergio Martinez 3. Daniel Santos 4. Paul Williams 5. Cory Spinks 6. Kermit Cintron 7. Verno Phillips 8. Ricardo Mayorga 9. Jamie Moore 10. Sergio Mora Welterweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Shane Mosley 2. Miguel Cotto 3. Joshua Clottey 4. Andre Berto 5. Luis Collazo 6. Vyacheslav Senchenko 7. Selcuk Aydin 8. Isaac Hlatshwayo 9. Zab Judah 10. Delvin Rodrigurez Light-Welterweight ESB Champ: Manny Pacquiao 1, Ricky Hatton 2. Timothy Bradley 3. Junior Witter 4. Juan Urango 5. Kendall Holt 6. Amir Khan 7. Marcos Maidana 8. Lamont Peterson 9. Andreas Kotelnik 10. Victor Ortiz Lightweight ESB Champ: Juan Manuel Marquez 1. Joel Casamayor 2. Juan Diaz 3. Joan Guzman 4. Edwin Valero 5. Michael Katsidis 6. Rolando Reyes 7. Ali Funeka 8. Paulus Moses 9. Miguel Acosta 10. Yuri Romanov Super-Featherweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Humberto Soto 2. Jorge Linares 3. Robert Guerrero 4. Malcolm Klassen 5. Roman Martinez 6. Sergey Gulyakevich 7. Jorge Barrios 8. Mzonke Fana 9. Cassius Baloyi 10. Nicky Cook Featherweight ESB Champ: Chris John 1. Steven Luevano 2. Rocky Juarez 3. Cristobal Cruz 4. Rafael Marquez 5. Yuriorkis Gamboa 6. Jorge Solis 7. Mario Santiago 8. Elio Rojas 9. Oscar Larios 10. Takahiro Aoh Super-Bantamweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Juan Manuel Lopez 2. Celestino Caballero 3. Toshiaki Nishioka 4. Daniel Ponce De Leon 5. Steve Moliter 6. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym 7. Bernard Dunne 8. Jeffrey Mathebula 9. Ricardo Cordoba 10. Gerry Penalosa Bantamweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1. Hozumi Hasegawa 2. Joseph Agbeko 3. Anselmo Moreno 4. Fernando Montiel 5. Wladimir Sidorenko 6. Yohnny Perez 7. Silence Mabuza 8. Abner Mares 9. Nehomar Cermeno 10. Sasha Bakhtin Super-Flyweight ESB Champ: Vic Darchinyan 1. Alexander Munoz 2. Jorge Arce 3. Jose Lopez 4. Hugo Cazares 5. Z Gorres 6. Nobou Nashiro 7. Duangpetch Saengmorakot 8. Evans Mbamba 9. Simphiwe Nongqayi 10. Kohei Kono Flyweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1.Nonito Donaire 2.Daisuke Naito 3.Omar Narvaez 4.Pongonsalek Wonjongkam 5.Denkaosan Kaovichit 6.Takefumi Sakata 7.Julio Cesar Miranda 8.Moruti Mthalane 9.Koki Kameda 10.Luis Concepcion Light-Flyweight ESB Champ: Ivan Calderon 1. Brian Viloria 2. Edgar Sosa 3. Giovanni Segura 4. Ulises Solis 5 .Brahim Asloum Minimumweight ESB Champ: (Vacant) 1.Roman Gonzalez 2.Raul Garcia 3.Oleydong Sithsamerchai 4.Nkosinathi Joyi 5.Donnie Nietes
No 4 for Paul Williams @154 is ludacris he'd be pushing no2 @160 so if he is ranked in at 154 you would think the no1 spot would certainly be his . Hatton @2 in the 140 lb division is flattering while im a huge Ricky fan he doesnt deserve that ranking . Khan is too high @6 too . The Lightweight division rankings are interesting also !!!!!
Looks pretty ok. You can always argue that some fighters are 1 or 2 places off from where they should rank, but that is hard to get bulletproof.
What I'd like to point out to you all is that we are not all a bunch of delusional 'nuthuggers' towards out own fighters, as has been claimed by various miscreants on the General Forum in the past. Look where we put Haye and Khan if you'd like proof of this. We tried to be as fair as we could and took into account achievement rather than potential:good.
Personally i want Williams at top 4 in middleweight. If Witter wins on saturday he will go ahead of Hatton. If Bradley or Nate win they will be number 1. Kotelnik would of been top 4, therefore Khan should be top 6. I thought he should be higher and I dont like Khan.
What has Williams done at the weight (this isn't P4P rankings)? Hatton got beat my the best, and he was previously the top dog, I don't see why he has to go any further down at the moment. Khan beat Kotelnik, who would have been in the top 5 - I think it is justifiable, although I would have Maidana ahead of him. Anyway, whoever created those lists keep up the great work :good
Nice to see the wide variety of opinions from the general forum, where 4 out of the 5 (could be more) posts are from people in the UK.............
Only the Brits would put Valuev at #2 and have Haye ranked in the top ten based of one win in nearly a year at Heavyweight. :roflatsch
Ring Magazine have Haye ranked in their top ten. As do Fightnews.com. As do the IBF. As do the WBA. As do the WBO. Your claim is that all of those organisations are British? Only someone with a well below average sized head could possibly believe that.
2 wins at Heavyweight against MEDIOCRE competition does not make a legit top 10 Heavyweight. I agree he could very well be an alphabet organization (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO) top 10 but that is not saying much they have Ray Austin and Donnell Holmes ranked in the top 10. :rofl And Valuev at #2 is a joke and only because he is supposed to fight Haye. Valuev should be around #7 or #8.
Dude hasn't fought in 17 months and last I heard was not expecting to fight again at superbantamweight which is the only weight at which he could logically be ranked.